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Old 08-10-2012, 09:58 PM
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A U.S. athlete is under fire by some in the Mexican-American community for carrying a Mexican flag after winning a silver medal in the 1,500 meters.

Leo Manzano, a Mexican immigrant who became the first American man to win a medal in the metric mile since 1968, draped himself in the flags of both his countries after his race at Olympic Stadium. That decision earned some cheers, but mostly jeers from Mexican-Americans.

[ Video: Gold medalist Lopez Lomong on what the red, white and blue mean to him ]

Ruben Navarrette Jr., a CNN contributor and Washington Post Group writer, was among those criticizing the flag choice. Manzano competes for the United States, not Mexico, Navarrette wrote. Why would he carry a flag of the country his parents left when he was 4 years old?

Some people will insist that this is Manzano's choice to make, that it was his sweat and sacrifice that got him to London, and this was his victory to celebrate however he saw fit. Those people are wrong. They're focused on the individual. But the last thing the Olympics is about is the individual.

It's about being part of a team -- the U.S. Olympic team. It's about national pride, not ego. Manzano wasn't there to compete for himself but to represent his country. All he had to do was decide which country that was. He chose not to choose.

What am I missing? Where were the Italian-American athletes waving the Italian flag, or the Irish-Americans waving the Irish flag? I didn't see that.

The last one is the money quote. We all come from somewhere. Not everyone is an immigrant, but every Olympian has roots. But did you see Danell Leyva holding a Cuban flag at his medal ceremony? Or Michael Phelps carrying a Union Jack because he has English blood in his ancestry?

[ Related: Backlash over U.S. soccer team's Nike T-shirts ]

I talked to a friend with a Mexican background and she was vehemently against Manzano's action. "It's fine to be proud of your roots," she said, "but not in this context."

At least Manzano wears the red, white and blue. To me, it's even more offensive when athletes who live, train and hold citizenship here make the choice to compete for other countries because it makes for an easier path to the Olympics. To take one example: Milorad Cavic, the man who nearly beat Michael Phelps in the 100 fly in Beijing, was born and raised in the United States but made the choice early in his life to swim for Serbia where he holds dual citizenship.

A poll on the CBS Atlanta website showed that 83 percent of respondents think Manzano shouldn't have carried the Mexican flag. I believe it's more complicated than a yes or no answer, but can't disagree. Athletes with dual citizenship are naturally going to have competing loyalties and mixed feelings. Yet, when they step to the starting line with a USA on their chest, there should be no confusion.
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Old 08-10-2012, 10:01 PM
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well that journalist is always against any Mexicans that bring out a Mexican flag while living in the US so I'm not even going to read it all..

obviously the man has some self-hating, racist issues to deal with. most likely a fat guy.

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Old 08-10-2012, 10:05 PM
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btw where was this guy when this happened

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Old 08-10-2012, 10:20 PM
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yeah i also notice how they had the voting toll in cbs atlanta, why not in california or texas? plus i think this was blown out of proportion by the media.
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Old 08-11-2012, 12:45 AM
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if I won a medal for the u.s. I would only carry the Mexican flag
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Old 08-11-2012, 02:28 AM
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The guy did good, I would carry both flags as well, rep ur roots, culture and heritage. Because any arrogant person can forget who they are, but it takes a real humble and sincere person to remember where you came from.

Side not didn't Oscar de la Hoya step into the ring with both flags in his gold medal fight in the Olympics I thought I read sumthing like that in his book. Anyways y lo mamaron al vato for winning gold lol, I guess ur only allowed to carry both flags when u win gold lol
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i could understand why they would get upset, i mean anyone can, right? he signed up to represent the USA in this international competition. then when he wins he basically shows off another flag and it gives the impression that 2 countries won instead of 1, when it should only be 1 country. i'm not sure if he planned it or not, but if he did, maybe that wasn't the best thing to do at these olympics. i mean when it comes to the olympics, it's suppose to be one country against another. all in all, on paper and at the end of the day, it'll be a medal for the US not mexico, so i don't think people should get too mad over this. let him be proud of being from both countries or acknowledging his roots.
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I dont see a problem with that at all. The guy is just repping his roots & blood.

Talk about making a big deal out of nothing.
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To me, it's even more offensive when athletes who live, train and hold citizenship here make the choice to compete for other countries because it makes for an easier path to the Olympics. To take one example: Milorad Cavic, the man who nearly beat Michael Phelps in the 100 fly in Beijing, was born and raised in the United States but made the choice early in his life to swim for Serbia where he holds dual citizenship.
Sums it up really.

They're bitter that people who have an affinity for their motherland don't choose to represent USA. I cannot believe people are ' offended ' by the decision of one person, especially in this context.

Who does America think they are?

There are virtually no native US citizens, America is one big melting pot, full of people from various ethnic backgrounds. If I was an Eastern European or South American immigrant living in America, I'd probably represent my roots too.
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Jaime Espinal is dumbass, if he wanted to represent Mexico he should have done so in the first place. I hate athletes that think they can represent two countries at once. Especially in the Olympics, where only one country receives a medal.

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