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View Poll Results: who's a higher ranked ATG?
Floyd Mayweather 113 47.88%
Bernard Hopkins 123 52.12%
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Old 08-03-2012, 10:42 PM
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Well you know it's B-Hop for me. Sure he's lost to some very good fighters. But the only fights he lost that were not controversial was RJ & Dawson at 47. Other than that an argument can be made for his other losses. Oldest champ (world title). Record middleweight defenses. Beat sure fore HOF'amers. He's the greatest active fighter IMO.

Floyd beat who he needed to whenever he needed to. But IMO his resume is weak. Castillo, Corrales, who has he beaten that compare to who B-Hop has beaten?? Besides losing to Roy, Tito, Tarver, Jc I mean genuine HOf'rs & all competitive.
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Old 08-03-2012, 10:51 PM
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Well you know it's B-Hop for me. Sure he's lost to some very good fighters. But the only fights he lost that were not controversial was RJ & Dawson at 47. Other than that an argument can be made for his other losses. Oldest champ (world title). Record middleweight defenses. Beat sure fore HOF'amers. He's the greatest active fighter IMO.

Floyd beat who he needed to whenever he needed to. But IMO his resume is weak. Castillo, Corrales, who has he beaten that compare to who B-Hop has beaten?? Besides losing to Roy, Tito, Tarver, Jc I mean genuine HOf'rs & all competitive.
well if all the names u know on floyds resume is castillo and corrales then theres your problem.
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Old 08-03-2012, 11:04 PM
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I think Hopkins has the best resume out of any current fighter, both Floyd and Manny are close though.
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Old 08-03-2012, 11:17 PM
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I gotta go with Hopkins, Mayweather is close though.
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Old 08-03-2012, 11:22 PM
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I voted Hopkins. They are both great but Hopkins got such a late start due to prison and was still able to defend the middleweight tittle successfully 20 times before losing a close one to the 27 year old Taylor at age 40. He then went on to score great victories over Tarver, Pavlic and Pascal at a ridiculously old age. He lost some fights but the overall quality of his opponents was higher than Mayweather's opponents. A slight edge for Hopkins in my opinion.
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Old 08-03-2012, 11:25 PM
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hopkins took on much bigger challenges and has the better resume.
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Old 08-03-2012, 11:30 PM
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What is Hopkins going to do in the remainder of his career at 47 years of age to surpass him?
He could take another young fighter's O by beating Cleverly or Cloud if he beats Pascal, while beating his own record for oldest man to win a world title.

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Floyd beat who he needed to whenever he needed to. But IMO his resume is weak. Castillo, Corrales, who has he beaten that compare to who B-Hop has beaten?? Besides losing to Roy, Tito, Tarver, Jc I mean genuine HOf'rs & all competitive.
You need to take into account the fact that half these great fighters were smaller than Hop, while Floyd was the smaller man moving up when he beat most of his best opponents.

Also Floyd fought the #1 guy in 4 of his 5 weightclasses and is the only undefeated 5 division champ.
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Old 08-03-2012, 11:41 PM
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He could take another young fighter's O by beating Cleverly or Cloud if he beats Pascal, while beating his own record for oldest man to win a world title.


You need to take into account the fact that half these great fighters were smaller than Hop, while Floyd was the smaller man moving up when he beat most of his best opponents.

Also Floyd fought the #1 guy in 4 of his 5 weightclasses and is the only undefeated 5 division champ.
cotto wasn' the real number 1 just look at his resume at 154 compared to others there and beating baldomir is beating baldomir. Zsolt erdei laughs at baldomir.
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Old 08-03-2012, 11:54 PM
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Predictable answers from some posters...

For me it's Hop...he's fought just about everyone you'd want him too. Really only decisively losing to Roy.

Floyd will most likely surpass him when it's all said and done as many have said.
^^^^ because PBF seems to be a little more risk averse and has not demonstrated mastery into his late 40s as has B-Hop.

That said, it's very close and if Floyd extends his wizardry into his 40s or takes some more challenging fights (as he has recently) or some combination of the 2, he will likely surpass Hopkins in my book at least. Would love to see it...
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Old 08-04-2012, 12:02 AM
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cotto wasn' the real number 1 just look at his resume at 154 compared to others there and beating baldomir is beating baldomir. Zsolt erdei laughs at baldomir.
Whether you like it or not he was ranked #1 by Ring magazine. And it's not just Baldomir, Mosley was also the linear WW champ when Floyd beat him.
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