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View Poll Results: If Josesito Lopez BEATS Canelo Is He Instant ATG, P4P top 10, Fighter of the Year?
Pound for Pound TOP 10 4 5.48%
Fighter of the Year 57 78.08%
ATG (one of the All-Time Greats) 0 0%
ALL of the Above 5 6.85%
NONE of the Above 7 9.59%
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Old 07-30-2012, 07:38 PM
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Fighter of the year.
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Old 07-30-2012, 07:43 PM
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And yet you hate on Guerrero for coming up from 135 to 147 and winning an interim belt? Go figure
he barely beat aydin whos a dumb fighter
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Old 07-30-2012, 07:52 PM
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Judah sure, but Gatti? Small, washed up, beat up worse by Gomez.

Also, Baldo was a big career welter beating two natural lwws. Lopez was gonna fight Holt at 140 in june, fought Ortiz at 147 instead, was outsized, and in august he's fighting "superstar" Canelo at 154. That's more impressive, if he wins.
If I'm not mistaken, Gatti had only lost to Floyd in the last 4 years or so before facing Baldomir. I'm pretty sure Gatti was actually the favorite because most felt Baldo's victory over Judah was a fluke.

Regarding Canelo, he's possibly worse than Bute. We really don't know how good he is because he refuses to fight in his own weight class. Why crown Canelo as being the king without even proving any of his worth?

At least we knew what Gatti and Judah brought to the table based off who they've been in with and who they've beaten. For all we know, Canelo could not even be a Top 10 JMW because he's never faced anyone worth substance. All we're doing is speculating off what we think Canelo could do based off his victories over Mosley, Hatton, Cotto, Gomez and Baldomir and the fact that a lot of people in Mexico support him. Outside of that, we know absolutely nothing about how he handles pressure, how well he can take a punch from someone his own size, nothing....

Sure Lopez beat Ortiz at 147, but do we really know how good Ortiz was at 147? He only had one fight prior to facing Mayweather. He has 1 damn good win at WW, but he wasn't consistently knocking em down at 147. Still a solid win for Lopez, but I actually slightly favored Lopez going into that fight. It was far from a huge upset; that's why I wouldn't favor the Lopez win over Baldo's over Gatti's.
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Old 07-30-2012, 07:53 PM
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yes he's FOTY if he wins but let's be realistic Ortiz was beating him and Canelo is going to destroy him

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Old 07-30-2012, 08:13 PM
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Old 07-30-2012, 08:27 PM
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I could see FOTY, but that's it.
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Old 07-30-2012, 08:55 PM
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lopez already caused a huge upset over ortiz by coming up from 140 and beating him by rtd. He's now going up yet another division and fighting the wbc champion at 154. If he somehow beats canelo, would you consider lopez fighter of the year? Where would he be in your p4p list? Could he even be an instant atg by those two achievements alone?
hell no...!
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Old 07-30-2012, 08:58 PM
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I bet if it was someone like Bradley that did this you'd be saying yes.
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Old 07-30-2012, 09:05 PM
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Canelo is totally unproven in big fights. Foty is possible depending on how Lopez wins, should he win. PFP, atg status...you can forget about that ish-for now!
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Old 07-30-2012, 09:09 PM
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He's not gonna beat alvarez and if he does it will be the upset of the year.
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