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Old 07-20-2012, 11:40 AM
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Hes full of rubbish, explain yourself Sergio. Is Pac no5 for actually destroying Margarito who beat you, who you can only claim to think you could beat if you was to fight him again? Or is he number 5 cos he destroyed cotto, who you now want to fight? Or cos he barely beat JMM, who is better than you anyway.?
Nah you don't get it, Sergio said Pac is not even top 5. Sergio's P4P rankings :

Floyd
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Ward
Dawson
B-hop
Floyd
Martinez
Marquez
Dawson
Vitali
Moreno
Donaire
Lara
Chavez
Trout
Mikey
And many more all beat him if they were the same size. The real meaning of pfp, not your little popularity contest.
Mikey Garcia would beat Pac? Chavez Jr? Austin Trout? Come on man, put down the haterade.
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Old 07-20-2012, 11:42 AM
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pac's win against bradley > anything sergio has done since beating paul williams..
But you can't give Pac credit for a fight he lost. Thats the same as someone penalizing him for "beating" JMM. Shouldn't the official decision be a factor in determining this?
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Old 07-20-2012, 11:43 AM
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Ward
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Dawson
Vitali
Moreno
Donaire
Lara
Chavez
Trout
Mikey
And many more all beat him if they were the same size. The real meaning of pfp, not your little popularity contest.
wtf...so you think guys like mikey, trout,chavez jr, vitali and even chad dawson and current bhop would beat pac if they were the same size? i doubt that...126 pac would have demolished 126 garcia. probably the only guys on that list that i'd give a chance at beating pac are donaire (if at the same size), moreno(if at the same size), martinez (if at the same size), floyd and marquez...
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Old 07-20-2012, 11:44 AM
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......... at the exact same time pac turned 32 and is when most top level athetes performances usually decline

especially in as many wars as pac has been.

The fact that he just beat Bradley, An undefeated hungry in his prime world champion is in itself a great achievement.
Uh, when did this happen?
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Old 07-20-2012, 11:44 AM
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Dont know where Manny is, but he's sure as hell not #1. And any writer that has him there is a damn fool.
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Old 07-20-2012, 11:50 AM
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But you can't give Pac credit for a fight he lost. Thats the same as someone penalizing him for "beating" JMM. Shouldn't the official decision be a factor in determining this?
well imo and in the opinion of others in boxing it should have been a win...so that win trumps anything sergio has done since paul williams. in fact i don't consider martinez's wins since paul williams to be any better than donaire's wins since montiel. i do agree that pac's performance against marquez should have put him down a bit in the rankings, but his performance against a young undefeated fighter like bradley should have brought him back up/redeemed himself imo.
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Old 07-20-2012, 12:00 PM
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wtf...so you think guys like mikey, trout,chavez jr, vitali and even chad dawson and current bhop would beat pac if they were the same size? i doubt that...126 pac would have demolished 126 garcia. probably the only guys on that list that i'd give a chance at beating pac are donaire (if at the same size), moreno(if at the same size), martinez (if at the same size), floyd and marquez...
I find the bold worrysome. That is the meaning of pfp homey. So I'm not sure why you would put it in quotation. That's what pfp by definition means. If fighter were the same size. Pfp is simply used as a promotional tool & popularity contest right now.
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Old 07-20-2012, 12:02 PM
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well imo and in the opinion of others in boxing it should have been a win...so that win trumps anything sergio has done since paul williams. in fact i don't consider martinez's wins since paul williams to be any better than donaire's wins since montiel. i do agree that pac's performance against marquez should have put him down a bit in the rankings, but his performance against a young undefeated fighter like bradley should have brought him back up/redeemed himself imo.
Opinions tend to be biased. Thats why I'm suggesting going with official results, even if your results are different, for the purposes of p4p status.

But Bradley's age and record don't make him better than JMM. So if Manny fell because of the JMM fight, the bradley performance can't be enough to bring him back to the same level.

If we go by official results, I'd still favor manny over sergio.
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Seriously, with all the losing of fantasy fights and always losing when compared to Mayweather. Manny doesn't even get much respect from his peers.
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Old 07-20-2012, 12:06 PM
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You can't be number 2 with Martinez's recent fight history.
u mean facing adversity in TWO fights in a row, rising to the occasion, and elevvating to the next lvl to KO his opponents, making them pay for pushing him, TWO fights in a row??? Sergio is AMAZING for doing it two fights in a row.
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