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#111
Old 07-20-2012, 09:07 PM
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OMG!
P4P isnt about past titles its about current
that is why Pac shouldnt be higher than 5
he lost his last fight and before Bradley who was #8P4P (thanks for correcting me) he fought JMM (great) Margs and mosley come on now
Sergio is CURRENTLY the Lineal MW champ not past but currently
he should not be any higher than 4 because of his choice in opposition lately

Pac lost plain and simple he needs to be dropped out of the top 3 maybe 4
Sergio hasnt lost in a minute
Bradley just beat the unbeatable Pac

if you need my P4P that bad I have it
1. FMJ
2. Ward
3. Vlad
4. Martinez
5. Pac
How come you haven't got Igarashi above Pac, he's lineal too? How about Sonny Boy Jaro, you dropped him below Pac for losing the lineal crown? Why is that?
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Old 07-20-2012, 09:09 PM
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Pacquiao, nor Donaire, deserve a spot on the top 5 P4P lists.
martinez's last 3 wins aren't any better than donaire's..in fact you can argue that donaire's last three opponents are better than sergio's. and pac just beat a guy (but got robbed) who was ranked in the top 10 p4p by ring magazine...sergio is fighting a guy who is still considered by some as a hype job who has yet to beat anyone really relevant.
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Old 07-20-2012, 09:11 PM
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lmao at Martinez this guy is a bum who has fought bum fighters so he shouldn't be talking, can't wait for JCC Jr to knock this bum out!
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Old 07-20-2012, 09:14 PM
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Ward
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B-hop
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Dawson
Vitali
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Donaire
Lara
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And many more all beat him if they were the same size. The real meaning of pfp, not your little popularity contest.
you really don't know **** about boxing
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Old 07-20-2012, 09:15 PM
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martinez's last 3 wins aren't any better than donaire's..in fact you can argue that donaire's last three opponents are better than sergio's. and pac just beat a guy (but got robbed) who was ranked in the top 10 p4p by ring magazine...sergio is fighting a guy who is still considered by some as a hype job who has yet to beat anyone really relevant.
It's quite clear they're worse. WV2 and Mathebula >> Barker and Macklin, who will probably finish their careers with 0 belts to their names. Narvaez and Dz are similar, except for Dz's gross inactivity
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Old 07-20-2012, 09:23 PM
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Paqciao fought giants small guys like him would have never have the balls of fighting. Clottey, Margarito, Mosley. He dominated them all. Size difference in the Marg fight was so huge that no one could have imagine Bradley, Berto, Ortiz, Marquez surviving Marg's pressure. During the time Paq picked these fights all these clowns' choice was Berto. Some clowns even suggested Bradley. Well, you've seen them fight. Berto was exposed as a mere hypejob. Every clown in this site expected Bradley to massacre the overrated Paq. After just a few rounds, Bradley was already on survival mode. It's embarrassing.

What these Paq hating clowns can't seem to accept is Paq is just as good when he's playing defense. His opponents are terrified of coming forward. (Well, they're the challengers. They're supposed to break the impasse and attempt to take the belt away from champ Paq.)
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Old 07-20-2012, 09:27 PM
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WOW now you are just trying to keep pac relevant
please stop
Pac is out of the top 3 P4P just deal with it Hughie
dont get your panties in a bunch
Chuckguy, do everyone a favour and stop making up your own rules as to what makes a person p4p.

If Pac was Sergios size, hed wipe the floor with him, end of discussion. As would JMM and as for Bradley, that is a close one. If Bradley was Sergios size that would be interesting.
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Old 07-20-2012, 09:34 PM
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Sergio only says Pac is no5, as he is scared if he beats Floyd, people will see him as being ahead of Floyd, but behind Pac and still not no1.

So Sergio is getting rid of the competition which he knows is Pac.
Mind games, thats all it is.

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Old 07-20-2012, 09:41 PM
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Starting from Clottey, Paq's opponents have all been fighting to survive, with the exception of Margarito. Clottey covered himself up with his gloves the entire fight. The rest either ran or backpedaled.

Paq is an entertainer. And that is the key to understanding Paq's fights. If he stands still and plays counterpuncher, nobody can beat him. But nothing will happen if he does. And he panics when the crowd starts booing and heckling. He had to press the action even when he knows he's already miles ahead on points.

He finally got sick of having to be the sole entertainer. He opted to play defense in the Bradly fight and Paq was like an indestructible brick wall that's impossible to crack. Unfortunately, American Idol judges decided the outcome of the fight.

Recall fights like Chaves and Whittaker. Pernell backpedaled in the entire fight. The difference between Chaves Sr, in this fight, and Paq is that Paq can stand his ground, pushed on the ropes and still come out victorious. Chaves doing the same would have been disastrous so his only choice to win/survive was to keep the pressure going. There's no other way.

In other words, Paq is only doing it because of the crowd. That's why I want to see the Marques 4 happen. I can see Paq not worrying about the audience and will do the same thing he did in the Bradly fight. That is, stand his ground and keep motioning Marques to come in and fight.

If the Bradly rematch happens, I'm not sure if Paq will do the same thing. Real judges would score the fight, anyway. Paq wins again either by KO or decision.

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Old 07-20-2012, 10:09 PM
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Wlad is #2 P4P no doubt.
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