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Old 07-11-2012, 07:30 PM
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no he doesn't
as others have mentioned, better fighters lost to better fighters
it does kinda speak well for him that he only lost to top compettion
that's a minus, but only one of his losses was embarrassing
Duran, Frazier and who else? You make it sound as if theres hundreds out there who lost to better fighters.

Frazier yes but he lost to two, two of the best Heavyweights of all time yes but still only two.

I asked if there was any others with even more ATG losses on their resume.

The only two credible shouts have been Frazier and Duran who both have less ATG's losses on their resume however those ATG's are the likes of Ali and SRL to name two so they are credible shouts.
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Old 07-11-2012, 07:38 PM
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Duran, Frazier and who else? You make it sound as if theres hundreds out there who lost to better fighters.

Frazier yes but he lost to two, two of the best Heavyweights of all time yes but still only two.

I asked if there was any others with even more ATG losses on their resume.

The only two credible shouts have been Frazier and Duran who both have less ATG's losses on their resume however those ATG's are the likes of Ali and SRL to name two so they are credible shouts.
Archie Moore:
Rocky Marciano
Muhammad Ali
Floyd Patterson
Holman Williams
Ezzard Charles
Eddie Booker
Charley Burley
Harold Johnson

Only one who you could question wasn't an ATG is Floyd Patterson but given your criteria of accomplishing much more then McGuigan or say Jess Willard who is probably the worst person in the HOF = ATG, Patterson fits it.

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Old 07-11-2012, 07:39 PM
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Juan Laporte;

Julio Cesar Chavez
Salvador Sanchez
Eusebio Pedroza
Azumah Nelson
Wilfredo Gomez
Kosta Tszyu
Barry McGuigan

Obviously not all ATG's but a strong list of fighters.


Oakland Billy Smith;

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Ezzard Charles
Charley Burley
Bert Lytell

He actually beat great fighters aswell.
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Old 07-11-2012, 07:40 PM
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Archie Moore:
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Floyd Patterson
Holman Williams
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Aren't you forgetting someone?
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Old 07-11-2012, 07:48 PM
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Archie Moore:
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Muhammad Ali
Floyd Patterson
Holman Williams
Ezzard Charles
Eddie Booker
Charley Burley
Harold Johnson

Only one who you could question wasn't an ATG is Floyd Patterson but given your criteria of accomplishing much more then McGuigan or say Jess Willard who is probably the worst person in the HOF = ATG, Patterson fits it.
Well there goes that obvious one i knew i'd forgotten. Can't believe it took 5 pages for him to get a mention aswell, although it has been 5 pages of mostly off topic posts.

Great shout however the man had over 200 fights Still think De La Hoya wins this game haha.
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Don't amuse me.
Roy Jones' resumé is a f-cking JOKE compared to De la Hoya's. Im not even an Oscar fan but his legacy is one level above RJJ's. Oscar fought EVERYBODY while Roy fought tomato cans and half professionals all his career.
And Tito is up there with de la hoya so Tito is way higher rated than Roy Jones
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Old 07-12-2012, 08:32 AM
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Roy Jones' resumé is a f-cking JOKE compared to De la Hoya's. Im not even an Oscar fan but his legacy is one level above RJJ's. Oscar fought EVERYBODY while Roy fought tomato cans and half professionals all his career.
And Tito is up there with de la hoya so Tito is way higher rated than Roy Jones
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