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Old 07-10-2012, 04:24 AM
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Default Victor Ortiz Parts Ways With Trainer Danny Garcia

By Ed de la Vega, DDS
PhilBoxing.com
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A very reliable source close to Team Ortiz was at our dental offices today for his dental work. He told us that Victor Ortiz, the kid they call ***8220;Vicious***8221; in Kansas and Ventura County, California broke off with his trainer, Danny Garcia. Garcia is the brother of Robert Garcia, the trainer of unified super bantamweight champion, Nonito Donaire Jr.


Apparently Ortiz was not too happy about the incident at his corner when he fought and lost via a 9th round TKO to Josesito Lopez of Riverside, CA.

Ortiz was not happy the way Garcia managed the fight and according to our source that directly resulted in the double jaw fracture that Ortiz suffered during that fateful fight at the Staples Center in LA.

Ortiz, we were told, advised Garcia at the end of round four that he felt his jaw was broken.

Garcia however wanted none of that and advised Ortiz to continue to attack Lopez with the hope that he may land a haymaker and KO Lopez. Besides, Garcia felt that Ortiz was leading in the fight so he wanted Ortiz to continue.

However, Ortiz was hit again in round 9 and the fracture in his jaw got worse. A second break occurred making it difficult if not impossible for Ortiz to close his mouth.

It was only then that Garcia finally agreed with Ortiz that the fight be stopped. However, it was Ortiz who told the referee that he can not continue and wanted the fight stopped.

Ortiz it was said is thinking of seeking the service of HOF trainer Freddie Roach but he is concerned about the availability of Roach who trains so many fighters at his gym.

So besides Roach, he is checking out other trainers he could hook up with when he returns to the gym.

Ortiz***8217; jaw is still wired shut. In a few weeks the doctor will be removing the immobilizing ***8220;arch bar***8221; and wires that keeps his jaws together. We were told, the reinforcing metal plate that is held by screws however may stay longer depending on the progress of the healing.

Thereafter, Ortiz can return to eating solid foods again and a few weeks after that, he should be good to return to training.

As for Garcia, it is perhaps time to look for another fighter to train. You see, Ortiz is the only fighter he trains as he works a day job full time. In fact, he works (for Coca-Cola) from early morning to the middle of the afternoon. After his shift is over he rushes to the gym to train Ortiz.

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Old 07-10-2012, 04:27 AM
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By Ed de la Vega, DDS
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Tue, 10 Jul 2012

A very reliable source close to Team Ortiz was at our dental offices today for his dental work. He told us that Victor Ortiz, the kid they call “Vicious” in Kansas and Ventura County, California broke off with his trainer, Danny Garcia. Garcia is the brother of Robert Garcia, the trainer of unified super bantamweight champion, Nonito Donaire Jr.


Apparently Ortiz was not too happy about the incident at his corner when he fought and lost via a 9th round TKO to Josesito Lopez of Riverside, CA.

Ortiz was not happy the way Garcia managed the fight and according to our source that directly resulted in the double jaw fracture that Ortiz suffered during that fateful fight at the Staples Center in LA.

Ortiz, we were told, advised Garcia at the end of round four that he felt his jaw was broken.

Garcia however wanted none of that and advised Ortiz to continue to attack Lopez with the hope that he may land a haymaker and KO Lopez. Besides, Garcia felt that Ortiz was leading in the fight so he wanted Ortiz to continue.

However, Ortiz was hit again in round 9 and the fracture in his jaw got worse. A second break occurred making it difficult if not impossible for Ortiz to close his mouth.

It was only then that Garcia finally agreed with Ortiz that the fight be stopped. However, it was Ortiz who told the referee that he can not continue and wanted the fight stopped.

Ortiz it was said is thinking of seeking the service of HOF trainer Freddie Roach but he is concerned about the availability of Roach who trains so many fighters at his gym.

So besides Roach, he is checking out other trainers he could hook up with when he returns to the gym.

Ortiz’ jaw is still wired shut. In a few weeks the doctor will be removing the immobilizing “arch bar” and wires that keeps his jaws together. We were told, the reinforcing metal plate that is held by screws however may stay longer depending on the progress of the healing.

Thereafter, Ortiz can return to eating solid foods again and a few weeks after that, he should be good to return to training.

As for Garcia, it is perhaps time to look for another fighter to train. You see, Ortiz is the only fighter he trains as he works a day job full time. In fact, he works (for Coca-Cola) from early morning to the middle of the afternoon. After his shift is over he rushes to the gym to train Ortiz.
Yeap. Ortiz whisper to him some stuff. A lot ppl have mentioned that. Not a surprise.
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Old 07-10-2012, 04:27 AM
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IMO Garcia should've took the fall for Ortiz if he knew his fighter couldn't continue or didn't want to..... However you want to word that......
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Old 07-10-2012, 04:29 AM
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I am not big in either of the garcia brothers. Look what happened to margarito.
Part of being a good corner is suppose to protect the fighter. I am not impressed with the boxing skillz of boxers coming from either brothers. Donaire should dump his trainer as well.
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Old 07-10-2012, 04:29 AM
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I don't think Ortiz is the only fighter Danny trains, he had that Euro dude from last Friday Night Fights I beleive


Anyways, if this is true, it's kind of sad to hear but I can see why Ortiz is spliting with Danny. Roach perhaps?
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Old 07-10-2012, 04:30 AM
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About time!!!! Hope its true
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Old 07-10-2012, 04:31 AM
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Part of being a good corner is suppose to protect the fighter.
Basically......
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Old 07-10-2012, 04:32 AM
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Don't matter, Ortiz is mentally weak, he was losing the psychological warfare in the ring. If anything his new trainer, whoever that may be, should emphasize on strictly making Ortiz a pressure fighter, his boxing abilities are average. When he fights aggressively he gets hit less, it's mostly when he opts to box that his opponents get back in the fight.
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Old 07-10-2012, 04:32 AM
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I don't think Ortiz is the only fighter Danny trains, he had that Euro dude from last Friday Night Fights I beleive


Anyways, if this is true, it's kind of sad to hear but I can see why Ortiz is spliting with Danny. Roach perhaps?
I like the dude that trained Miguel Cotto. Forgot his name. Nachos would be good as well.
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Old 07-10-2012, 04:35 AM
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Don't matter, Ortiz is mentally weak, he was losing the psychological warfare in the ring. If anything his new trainer, whoever that may be, should emphasize on strictly making Ortiz a pressure fighter, his boxing abilities are average. When he fights aggressively he gets hit less, it's mostly when he opts to box that his opponents get back in the fight.
Ahmmm....His jaw was broken. So not just psychological. jaw is physical.
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