Bookmark Website  | Free Registration  | The Team
Boxing Champions |  Boxing Schedule |  Boxing Video  |  Boxing History   |  Pound For Pound  | Lounge  | The Wire |  Audio  | Arcade

Navigation
Go Back   Boxing Forum > Boxing Forums > Non Stop Boxing
Reply
Thread Navigation

#1
Old 07-09-2012, 03:08 AM
BIGPOPPAPUMP
Big Bad Booty Daddy
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: New York
Posts: 20,615
Rep Power: 200000 BIGPOPPAPUMP has a reputation beyond reputeBIGPOPPAPUMP has a reputation beyond reputeBIGPOPPAPUMP has a reputation beyond reputeBIGPOPPAPUMP has a reputation beyond reputeBIGPOPPAPUMP has a reputation beyond reputeBIGPOPPAPUMP has a reputation beyond reputeBIGPOPPAPUMP has a reputation beyond reputeBIGPOPPAPUMP has a reputation beyond reputeBIGPOPPAPUMP has a reputation beyond reputeBIGPOPPAPUMP has a reputation beyond reputeBIGPOPPAPUMP has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 2,502,094,346,068.03
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 2,502,094,346,068.03
To our dad. Thanks for looking after us! - S a m u r a i Unban ЯiZO - Hugh Janus Unban ЯiZO - Hugh Janus Cheers, to the servers BPP! - mangler unban kev183 - Kevin Jesus 
Thanks for all u du Pops! - jazluvr For the Sam Tribute thread! Thanks Pops! - jazluvr Our Boxingscene father, who art in heaven.... - Disposable Arts A Medal For Boxing Scenes Father...... ;-) nyargles! - BritishBoxing92 Apple for Pump - Poor Lad 
Enjoy your Parallelogram - Spray_resistant Merry Christmas - Flab ...and a Happy New Year! - Flab .........no homo - MANIAC310 for the amazing job you do reporting the boxing news! - jose830 
happy holidays Popa! - jazluvr To wipe yourself down with after Reeno's sprayed his seed up you - !! Anorak Kudos to responding to the trolling!  Seeing your pic of Mayweather on the throne has become a daily routine for me. - Trudoe saw your name on my 'recent visitor list'...I'm flattered :flirt: - -jose- Merry Christmas - TBear 
Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - Butterball Anti-Tobacco - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - S a m u r a i Cesarean Sections - Headaches - Hospice Care - Multiple Myeloma - S a m u r a i Arthritis - Child Abuse - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - Dystonia - Education - Free Speech - Interstitial Cystitis - ME/CFIDS - Reye's Syndrome - Save the Music - Teens Against Smoking - Victim's Rights - Water Quality - S a m u r a i Childhood Cancer - S a m u r a i 
Lou Gehrig's Disease (ALS) - -Ash- Head and Neck Cancer - -Ash- Breast Cancer - Birth Parents - -Ash- Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - bearman3000 Bone Marrow Donation - Childhood Depression - Depression - Environment - Eye Injury Prevention - Glaucoma - Kidney Cancer - Kidney Disease - Kidney Transplantation - Leukemia - Lyme Disease - Mental Retardation - Missing Children - Organ Donation - T - jazluvr 
World Trade Center Victims and Heroes - Fireworks Safety - jazluvr Troop and Military Support - Amber Alert - Bladder Cancer - Endometriosis - Equality - Liver Cancer - Liver Disease - Missing Children - POW/MIA - Spina Bifida - Suicide - jazluvr Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - Grand Champ Arthritis - Child Abuse - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - Dystonia - Education - Free Speech - Interstitial Cystitis - ME/CFIDS - Reye's Syndrome - Save the Music - Teens Against Smoking - Victim's Rights - Water Quality - jazluvr Anti-Tobacco - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - jazluvr 
Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - bigpauly Bone Marrow Donation - Childhood Depression - Depression - Environment - Eye Injury Prevention - Glaucoma - Kidney Cancer - Kidney Disease - Kidney Transplantation - Leukemia - Lyme Disease - Mental Retardation - Missing Children - Organ Donation - T - Trudoe Alzheimer's - Crohn's & Colitis - Cystic Fibrosis - Domestic Violence - Fibromyalgia - Leimyosarcoma - Lupus - jas 
Post Comments Thread For: “Fighting Words” – The Bar is Too High for Nonito, Sergio

by David P. Greisman - It’s great to be good.

It’s great to be great.

It’s not so good to be thought of as great, however, when you don’t look as great as people think you are.

Boxing is a venture founded in expectations but grounded in reality. A fighter will reach his limit as soon as an opponent becomes an obstacle, and as soon as that impediment becomes insurmountable.

Nonito Donaire and Sergio Martinez are very good fighters whose moments of greatness have set the bar too high. For Donaire and Martinez — or rather for those who now expect the best from them — being very good is no longer good enough.

Those expectations are the product of single shots — left hooks landed twice by Donaire on Vic Darchinyan and Fernando Montiel, and an overhand left landed as a knockout blow by Martinez on Paul Williams.

Those punches ended fights abruptly and promptly kick-started the hype.

Donaire practically disappeared after the 2007 win over Darchinyan, fighting on Showtime broadcasts and independent pay-per-views but never truly capitalizing on the stardom for which he seemed destined. It was unmistakable that he was very good and getting better, defending his flyweight belt, moving up one division and winning an interim title, then moving up once more to bantamweight and plowing through Wladimir Sidorenko. [Click Here To Read More]
Reply With Quote
BIGPOPPAPUMP is offline
Advertisements
>>>TO REMOVE THESE ADS, PLEASE REGISTER HERE FOR FREE<<<
#2
Old 07-09-2012, 05:52 AM
Maidana vs Rios
m/(&gt;.&ltm/
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 3,201
Blog Entries: 1
Rep Power: 14 Maidana vs Rios has a reputation beyond reputeMaidana vs Rios has a reputation beyond reputeMaidana vs Rios has a reputation beyond reputeMaidana vs Rios has a reputation beyond reputeMaidana vs Rios has a reputation beyond reputeMaidana vs Rios has a reputation beyond reputeMaidana vs Rios has a reputation beyond reputeMaidana vs Rios has a reputation beyond reputeMaidana vs Rios has a reputation beyond reputeMaidana vs Rios has a reputation beyond reputeMaidana vs Rios has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 222,140.46
Bank: 4,804,539,907.25
Total Points: 4,804,762,047.71
Great gif.  Have some liquor - danny711 Pacquiao vs Marquez IV! - Check_hooks 
Default

wow khan actually took the high road, good for him
Reply With Quote
Maidana vs Rios is offline
#3
Old 07-09-2012, 07:42 AM
WESS
Most Definitely
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: From the beaches of F.L.A. to the mountains of W.A.
Age: 32
Posts: 12,772
Rep Power: 41 WESS has a reputation beyond reputeWESS has a reputation beyond reputeWESS has a reputation beyond reputeWESS has a reputation beyond reputeWESS has a reputation beyond reputeWESS has a reputation beyond reputeWESS has a reputation beyond reputeWESS has a reputation beyond reputeWESS has a reputation beyond reputeWESS has a reputation beyond reputeWESS has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 237,061,799,872.07
Bank: 19,695,164,943,494.83
Total Points: 19,932,226,743,366.90
Have a beer bro - deanrw For getting me a Roy Jones Jr. autograph!!! - TRUTH I love you baby! - JESS & WESS this is what all pactards want to do to you but they cant - I'm so sorry respect you as a poster, keep it up champ! - Atreyu Khalil 
God I hate u filipinos so much!!! fuk manny pacquiao stupid filipino, my hero floyd will whoop him - WESS - Panginoon until I can give you green k. - Round 1 Tri-Cities WA Wine Consultant - WESS 
Troop and Military Support - Amber Alert - Bladder Cancer - Endometriosis - Equality - Liver Cancer - Liver Disease - Missing Children - POW/MIA - Spina Bifida - Suicide - WESS World Trade Center Victims and Heroes - Fireworks Safety - WESS 
Default

Good read.
Reply With Quote
WESS is offline
#4
Old 07-09-2012, 08:01 AM
bojangles1987
bo jungle
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Hudson, Fl
Posts: 36,596
Rep Power: 130 bojangles1987 has a reputation beyond reputebojangles1987 has a reputation beyond reputebojangles1987 has a reputation beyond reputebojangles1987 has a reputation beyond reputebojangles1987 has a reputation beyond reputebojangles1987 has a reputation beyond reputebojangles1987 has a reputation beyond reputebojangles1987 has a reputation beyond reputebojangles1987 has a reputation beyond reputebojangles1987 has a reputation beyond reputebojangles1987 has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 2,277,000,357,873.67
Bank: 3,606,425,310,152.74
Total Points: 5,883,425,668,026.41
Thought ya could use a drink.. - romebyko For your triangle theory sig - rorymac merry xmas. - Ether Awesome sig... Love me some Breaking Bad. - Burning Phoenix that triangle theories sig haha - Alx. 
it takes courage just to agree to donate an organ to someone :fing02: - jose830 thanks for the update - jose830 Thanks for the video of Bradley-Provodnikov - kennylimon Cotto looked rejuvenated out there - -jose- for an atg poster! - jas 
World Trade Center Victims and Heroes - Fireworks Safety - -jose- Childhood Cancer - jas 
Default

It is part of greatness. Floyd, Pac, and Marquez are held to the same standards. Hopefully Donaire and Martinez realize that and take the stupid criticism as a compliment.
Reply With Quote
bojangles1987 is offline
#5
Old 07-09-2012, 09:14 AM
Bushbaby
Wild Apache
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Tacoma by way of St Croix.
Posts: 22,937
Blog Entries: 1
Rep Power: 58 Bushbaby has disabled reputation
Points: 1,255,321,611,010.21
Bank: 38,932,130,396,952.56
Total Points: 40,187,452,007,962.77
A fellow Williams fan! - Monkz cheers - LarryX2011 one of the best posters - MANIAC310 great fukkin poster - chiguy91 Happy new years - MANIAC310 
For a standup guy! - CubanGuyNYC Bradley's taking this thing down - mathed Happy Christmas amigo - chav Great poster. - CounterPunching Great Tribute to Miguel Cotto!  Thank you for taking the time! - Da Boxer 
Breast Cancer - Birth Parents - F-22 Raptor Cultural Diversity - Hunger - Leukemia - Lupus - Melanoma - Racial Tolerance - Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy Syndrome - Self Injury - mathed Troop and Military Support - Amber Alert - Bladder Cancer - Endometriosis - Equality - Liver Cancer - Liver Disease - Missing Children - POW/MIA - Spina Bifida - Suicide - LoadedWraps 
Exclamation

It might be, although their star power isn't high enough for them to cherrypick in peace. The business of boxing dictates when a fighter can & cannot afford to fight whoever they choose & be praised for it. Martinez & Donaire have not reached that level yet.
Reply With Quote
Bushbaby is offline
#6
Old 07-09-2012, 10:19 AM
danktrees
Contender
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Toronto
Age: 29
Posts: 265
Rep Power: 10 danktrees has a spectacular aura aboutdanktrees has a spectacular aura aboutdanktrees has a spectacular aura about
Points: 20,228.01
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 20,228.01
Default

while donaire hasn't looked particularly impressive in his last 3 fights he has won 2 of them convincingly and unified 2 belts in the 3rd fight. I'm willing to give him more time since this is just his 2nd fight at bantam and he's fighting the title holder. If he fights nishioka or rigo next and wins (for the record I don't see him beating rigo) then I think his status gets restored. A victory over arce or mares would also be impressive though it probably won't be as significant unless he kos them in impressive fashion.

as for Martinez I don't think he's done poorly. He was dancing circles around dzinzuruk and had him completely lost. Barker meanwhile was not exactly trying to fight much. From what I remember, after landing that one uppercut he didn't do much after that as evidenced by the fact that Sergio's nose never bled again after. While barker may not have been narvaez, he wasn't exactly boxing much yet Martinez still knocked him out...something donaire was not able to do with his opponents as noted in this article. Against Macklin, he didn't look impressive for 7 rounds but once he figured Macklin out he essentially knocked him out within 3 rounds. Considering Macklin took little to no damage through 7, the fact the Martinez knocked him out at the end of the 11th round I pretty impressive as it only took him 3 rounds to do all that damage. From what they were saying the game plan was always to take a bit of time to figure Macklin out before ending it. Whether you believe that or not is at your discretion, all I know is that Martinez destroyed him when he decided to turn it on.

Last edited by danktrees; 07-09-2012 at 12:30 PM.
Reply With Quote
danktrees is offline
#7
Old 07-09-2012, 11:25 AM
MJ223
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Washington, DC
Age: 26
Posts: 5,084
Rep Power: 23 MJ223 has a reputation beyond reputeMJ223 has a reputation beyond reputeMJ223 has a reputation beyond reputeMJ223 has a reputation beyond reputeMJ223 has a reputation beyond reputeMJ223 has a reputation beyond reputeMJ223 has a reputation beyond reputeMJ223 has a reputation beyond reputeMJ223 has a reputation beyond reputeMJ223 has a reputation beyond reputeMJ223 has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 6,000,082,563.04
Bank: 8,719,315,157,910.90
Total Points: 8,725,315,240,473.94
No Message - MJ223 No Message - MJ223 No Message - MJ223 No Message - MJ223 No Message - MJ223 
No Message - MJ223 No Message - MJ223 No Message - MJ223 No Message - MJ223 No Message - MJ223 
No Message - MJ223 No Message - MJ223 No Message - MJ223 No Message - MJ223 No Message - MJ223 
No Message - MJ223 Thanks MJ much appreciated - -Pull ma Finga- &quot;I see you pimp&quot; made me :lol1: - jose830 
Adoptee - Bone Cancer - Child Exploitation and Abuse - Hope and Support - Peace - Retinoblastoma - Right to Life - Student Sexual Assault - codey 
Default

Just veiled compliments..... If they weren't that good it would be nothing to talk/complain about.....
Reply With Quote
MJ223 is offline
#8
Old 07-09-2012, 11:26 AM
New England
Strong champion.
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Boston.
Posts: 29,072
Rep Power: 108 New England has a reputation beyond reputeNew England has a reputation beyond reputeNew England has a reputation beyond reputeNew England has a reputation beyond reputeNew England has a reputation beyond reputeNew England has a reputation beyond reputeNew England has a reputation beyond reputeNew England has a reputation beyond reputeNew England has a reputation beyond reputeNew England has a reputation beyond reputeNew England has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 6,002,681,677,188.30
Bank: 224,117,456,054,261.19
Total Points: 230,120,137,731,449.53
for a great poster! - sweetpea87 Drinks on me brother - BoxingGenius27 I hate boxing too, lmaaoooooooooooo - Sweet Pea 50 thanks for the green...always enjoy reading your post...green you once I can again... - jose830 great poster award - jazluvr 
Merry Christmas bro. Kick back and enjoy. Surround yourself with your loved ones and have a cold one. - deanrw Happy Holidays  New England - !! AI-Holmes!! Ma nigguh, you should come to Ol' England. - D-MiZe for entering the weed thread! - HUGH JASS BoxingScene's Educator-in-chief - Dr Rumack 
i didn't know you live in that area affected, my heart goes out to you...stay strong homie - jose830 #freeNewEnglang - thuggery Coming home on parole brew. - Sweet Pea 50 top poster and cool story in my thread of how you first joined boxingscene. - HUGH JASS happy independence day you zulu warrior!!! - HUGH JASS 
For the fitness and nutrition advice, thanks. - jas A top poster - jas For being a roided up freakazoid - Cuauhtémoc1520 ugly arms - -Weltschmerz- 44 posts late.Happy 29,000 post - HughJass 
Childhood Cancer - khepesh Arthritis - Child Abuse - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - Dystonia - Education - Free Speech - Interstitial Cystitis - ME/CFIDS - Reye's Syndrome - Save the Music - Teens Against Smoking - Victim's Rights - Water Quality - jazluvr World Trade Center Victims and Heroes - Fireworks Safety - jose830 Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - jose830 World Trade Center Victims and Heroes - Fireworks Safety - -jose- 
Troop and Military Support - Amber Alert - Bladder Cancer - Endometriosis - Equality - Liver Cancer - Liver Disease - Missing Children - POW/MIA - Spina Bifida - Suicide - -jose- Childhood Cancer - sugarsmosley World Trade Center Victims and Heroes - Fireworks Safety - HughJass AIDS/HIV - DARE - DUI Awareness - Epidermolysis Bullosa - Heart Disease - Lymphoma - MADD - Substance Abuse - jas World Trade Center Victims and Heroes - Fireworks Safety - sugarsmosley 
Breast Cancer - Birth Parents - jas Troop and Military Support - Amber Alert - Bladder Cancer - Endometriosis - Equality - Liver Cancer - Liver Disease - Missing Children - POW/MIA - Spina Bifida - Suicide - -jose- 
Default

they're easily the most overrated fighters on the planet

still top 10 p4p, though. boxing is pretty weak right now.
Reply With Quote
New England is offline
#9
Old 07-09-2012, 12:31 PM
Ravens Fan
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Roaming the back roads of America
Posts: 3,286
Rep Power: 19 Ravens Fan has a reputation beyond reputeRavens Fan has a reputation beyond reputeRavens Fan has a reputation beyond reputeRavens Fan has a reputation beyond reputeRavens Fan has a reputation beyond reputeRavens Fan has a reputation beyond reputeRavens Fan has a reputation beyond reputeRavens Fan has a reputation beyond reputeRavens Fan has a reputation beyond reputeRavens Fan has a reputation beyond reputeRavens Fan has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 101,076,448.55
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 101,076,448.55
To another real passionate boxing fan!! - LoadedWraps 
Default

A little side note to the obviously ignorant Mr. Garcia. Christians and Muslims actually believe in the same God.
Reply With Quote
Ravens Fan is offline
#10
Old 07-09-2012, 05:21 PM
anonymous2.0
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 2,032
Rep Power: 7 anonymous2.0 has a reputation beyond reputeanonymous2.0 has a reputation beyond reputeanonymous2.0 has a reputation beyond reputeanonymous2.0 has a reputation beyond reputeanonymous2.0 has a reputation beyond reputeanonymous2.0 has a reputation beyond reputeanonymous2.0 has a reputation beyond reputeanonymous2.0 has a reputation beyond reputeanonymous2.0 has a reputation beyond reputeanonymous2.0 has a reputation beyond reputeanonymous2.0 has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 10,034,090.99
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 10,034,090.99
Remain anonymous, yet present. - Atreyu Khalil 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Maidana vs Rios View Post
wow khan actually took the high road, good for him
It's not hard to take the high ground when your opponent has voluntarily lowered himself thus granting you the 'high' ground. It's a predictable response to an obvious provocation that makes you seem 'above' the racism.


But on the other hand, if it wasn't for the trash talk from the Garcia camp, I wouldn't be interested in the fight, Amir Khan has done jack all to promote this fight.
Reply With Quote
anonymous2.0 is offline
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Privacy Policy - Submit News - Feedback - Site Map - Advertise with Us

Copyright © 2003-2014 BoxingScene LLC All rights reserved.

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:35 AM.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.