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Old 07-08-2012, 01:46 PM
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Your opinion bro. I remember being in the gym, everyone dreamed of being a world champion. That's how I view titles to this day.
my opinion of them (that they are meaningless and that i dont care for them,) is my opinion.

the fact they they exist in multitude only to promote fights, sell tickets, and make money for networks, promotors, venues, and the sanctioning bodies, is a fact and not an opinion

that's why they are there.

i agree that they do mean something to almost every fighter. that's a byproduct of it. more fighters can become world champoins.
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Old 07-08-2012, 01:49 PM
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my opinion of them (that they are meaningless and that i dont care for them,) is my opinion.

the fact they they exist in multitude only to promote fights, sell tickets, and make money for networks, promotors, venues, and the sanctioning bodies, is a fact and not an opinion

that's why they are there.

i agree that they do mean something to almost every fighter. that's a byproduct of it. more fighters can become world champoins.
Yes, I do agree that they are used out of context, especially with star fighters, in the business of boxing, which these (new) fans support. But that feeling in the gym those 15 years ago about lifting 1 over my head will never leave me.
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Old 07-08-2012, 01:50 PM
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I'll start by saying that Jones from yesterday beats, Berto, Ortiz, M Jones & even Amir Khan IMO. Especially Khan who folds like a burrito under pressure. He fought hard & took those late rounds with toughness & grit. His stamina & body punching were fabulous.

Now for Brook, he showed toughness & heart. He fought back through a broken nose & still threw combinations in every late fight rally that he could muster. He moved away skillfully under pressure & he made the final bell on heart alone.

I don't see how anyone could think that Khan beats Brook. Furthermore that Jones from last night probably runs Khan out of the ring. That fight was amazing. I advise anyone who hasn't seen it to get it somehow, great, great fight. Answers a lot of questions about both fighters. I want to see Khan fight Jones when he comes to welterweight.

Here he goes again. LOL
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Old 07-08-2012, 01:50 PM
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I think Brooks reaction to adversity was the best thing about him last night, I thought he was a goner to be honest but he sucked it up and give Jones back a bit, I dont want to bring Khan in but if Khan was in there with Jones last night then it might be a long night too.
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Old 07-08-2012, 01:51 PM
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The broken nose had to have an effect on him.
Yea but I've seen other fights of his where he does the same thing. Even against Hatton, where granted Hatton was being a spoiler to survive, Brook was just not getting off late.
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Big overreaction. It was a young guy winning a tough fight against a tough opponent. Not sure how you go from that to both these guys beat everyone at welterweight.
hahaha exactly
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Old 07-08-2012, 01:51 PM
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I think Brooks reaction to adversity was the best thing about him last night, I thought he was a goner to be honest but he sucked it up and give Jones back a bit, I dont want to bring Khan in but if Khan was in there with Jones last night then it might be a long night too.
That's how I feel. Brook manned up under the pressure. Khan backpedals 7 looks ready to pee under jr welterweight pressure. I can only imagine the pressure from last night.
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Your opinion bro. I remember being in the gym, everyone dreamed of being a world champion. That's how I view titles to this day.
are there 4 worlds?
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Old 07-08-2012, 01:55 PM
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Yes, I do agree that they are used out of context, especially with star fighters, in the business of boxing, which these (new) fans support. But that feeling in the gym those 15 years ago about lifting 1 over my head will never leave me.


you'd have the very same dream if the current sanctioning body phenomenon weren't in place, brother. the very same.

it would be more difficult to achieve.


i'm sure you are aware of this, but there was a lineal title established essentially via the media that existed free of sanctioning fees before the creation of paid sanctioning bodies.
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