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View Poll Results: Sure fire candidate for FOTY?
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Old 07-08-2012, 02:16 PM
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great fight

one of the best you will see all year.
i'd still vote for guy robb and joel diaz, but brook and jones were certainly on the level

cant wait for brook to step up to the world class. looking forward to another big fight for carson jones, as well. he's always in shape, has a good chin and very good recuperative powers


i was yukking it up with the limeys on guru tv. twas enjoyable. they love to beat c level american fighters and act like they are the best we've got.
Count me on that train!! I cannot wait to see him on that world class level!! Also Carson Jones. He'd be a good fight for Khan's 1st stint at 147!!
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Old 07-08-2012, 02:21 PM
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A FOTY candidate is something you rewatch from start to finish. This fight is only good from round 6 to 12.
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Old 07-08-2012, 02:25 PM
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A FOTY candidate is something you rewatch from start to finish. This fight is only good from round 6 to 12.
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Old 07-08-2012, 02:31 PM
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I have no difficulty with anything. Understand this, is it correct that to you world titles don't mean anything??

To me, world titles mean something. They separate the class of fighter.

I haven't elevated Brooks skillset over Khan in the slightest. I didn't mention skillset at all. I said IMO he beats Khan. Now you're comparing something else yet again.

I simply believe Brook is a better fighter than Khan to me. That's not comparing skillset. BTW skills don't always win fights.

world titles are meaningless

100% meaningless. they exist to sell tickets, promote fights, and make money.

there are four of them, and you dont even have to be one of the best four fighters in a division to get one

some organizations split them up (interim, silver, diamond, royal sampler, what have you,)
they strip fighters for any reason they feel like
they favor certain fighters, nationalities, promotors, networks, etc


they mean nothing, man
nothing.

now, if you want to look at a lineal champion, you are likely talking about a ban man. those titles mean something


that's the guy who beat the guy. if the lineage is broken (a fighter moves up, retires, is injured or laid off for a period of more than a year, ,) ideally there is a box off between the two best fighters in the division. that starts up the lineage again.

obviously things get in the way, but that's the ideal scenario.
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Old 07-08-2012, 02:33 PM
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world titles are meaningless

100% meaningless. they exist to sell tickets, promote fights, and make money.

there are four of them, and you dont even have to be one of the best four fighters in a division to get one

some organizations split them up (interim, silver, diamond, royal sampler, what have you,)
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they favor certain fighters, nationalities, promotors, networks, etc


they mean nothing, man
nothing.

now, if you want to look at a lineal champion, you are likely talking about a ban man. those titles mean something


that's the guy who beat the guy. if the lineage is broken (a fighter moves up, retires, is injured or laid off for a period of more than a year, ,) ideally there is a box off between the two best fighters in the division. that starts up the lineage again.

obviously things get in the way, but that's the ideal scenario.
Your opinion bro. I remember being in the gym, everyone dreamed of being a world champion. That's how I view titles to this day.
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Old 07-08-2012, 02:40 PM
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A FOTY candidate is something you rewatch from start to finish. This fight is only good from round 6 to 12.

actaully, a foty canidate is one of the best fights for the calendar year. there are no qualifications other than that. they're evaluated via comparison to the other fights in the calendar year.

for instance, the fight of the year last year according to the ring magazine was berto and ortiz. that fight dropped off seriously after six rounds. it was still among the best fights of the year. both men traded bombs and went down seriously hurt.

that was one of the best fights of 2012.

so far this has been a pretty sh#t year for action fights. many fights have been cancelled, postponed, fighters are becoming more defensive, there aren't many punchers at the top of the game, etc.
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Old 07-08-2012, 02:42 PM
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Old 07-08-2012, 02:43 PM
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Carson Jones was a solid step up...but he's still Carson Jones. Brook just went life and death with Carson Jones, let's not get hard over it.

Really good fight, no doubt. Not FOTY though. And while I've been a Brook advocate for a while now, I was not all that impressed. Good offensive arsenal, but goes through inexplicable lulls, I can't tell if it's a stamina thing or just a lack of focus.

Neither guy beats Alexander, Bradley or Khan at this point though. No way.
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You will not regret it. Brook got his nose broken & Jones brought the heat in the 2nd half of the fight.
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Old 07-08-2012, 02:45 PM
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Carson Jones was a solid step up...but he's still Carson Jones. Brook just went life and death with Carson Jones, let's not get hard over it.

Really good fight, no doubt. Not FOTY though. And while I've been a Brook advocate for a while now, I was not all that impressed. Good offensive arsenal, but goes through inexplicable lulls, I can't tell if it's a stamina thing or just a lack of focus.

Neither guy beats Alexander, Bradley or Khan at this point though. No way.
The broken nose had to have an effect on him.
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