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Old 07-10-2008, 07:52 PM
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Default I was just thinkin about Carlos Ortiz and found a little info tell me what u think...

Born on September 9,1936. Came to this country in 1946.
Started boxing amateur in 1946 at 10 years of age.
Had 40 amateur fights.
Fought in the Madison Square Boys Club in Manhattan, NY.
Turned pro in 1955. He had 27 straight victories.
Won the Junior Welterweight title in 1959.
He defeated Kenny Lane in the second round KO at Madison Square Garden.
On April 21,1962, he defeated Joe Brown for the lightweight title in a
15 round decision.
Joe Brown had 11 successful title defenses.
In 1962 Carlos was awarded fighter of the year.
He had 18 successful title defenses.
In a 1965 Panama City bout he lost a 15 round decision to Laguna.
Ortiz regained his title November 13, 1965 out pointing Ismael Laguna in 15 rounds in
San Juan, Puerto Rico.
Once again he defeated Laguna defending his crown in a 15 round decision at NY Shea
Stadium, August 16, 1967.

Carlos Ortiz retired in 1968. Carlos will go down in history as one of the
greatest lightweight champions of all times.

LIKE MANY great fighters, Carlos Ortiz first developed his fighting instincts on the
street. When his family moved to New York City when he was a child, Carlos found himself
in numerous street fights. He began training at the Madison Square Boys Club and turned
pro at the age of 18 in 1955. He won his first 20 pro fights.

Ortiz became a world champion in 1959 when he avenged an earlier defeat against Kenny Lane
to win the junior welterweight title. That title, however, had not been fought for in
13 years and meant little to the boxing world. So, after losing the crown to Duilio Loi
on a controversial decision in the Loi's hometown, Ortiz focused on the lucrative
lightweight division.

In 1962, Ortiz defeated Joe Brown to win the world lightweight title. He defended that
belt successfully four time before losing to Ismael Laguna in 1965.

Seven months later, Ortiz decisioned Laguna in a rematch and regained the title. He made
five successful defenses, beating the likes of Laguna, Johnny Bizzarro, Flash Elorde and
Sugar Ramos, twice. He finally lost the crown to Carlos Teo Cruz in Cruz' native Dominican
Republic in 1968.

Ortiz retired in 1969 and made a comeback bid in 1971. He won nine straigt fights before
Kenny Buchanan stopped him in six rounds and ended his career.

Born: September 9, 1936 Puerto Rico

Pro Record:61-7-1 (30 KO), 1 NC
Elected Int'l Boxing HOF, 1991
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Old 07-10-2008, 07:58 PM
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On another forum I go to some guy I was trying to tell me that Pacquiao was the greatest asain fighter of all time. I said "Ok, but what about Elorde"

Then this is the answer he gives me. Insted of saying how he conquered Barrera, destroyed Morales, whatever

"Well Pacquiao won a title at a division that Elorde failed to do (lightweight)"

Seriously? Carlos Ortiz >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David Diaz.
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Old 07-10-2008, 08:12 PM
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On another forum I go to some guy I was trying to tell me that Pacquiao was the greatest asain fighter of all time. I said "Ok, but what about Elorde"

Then this is the answer he gives me. Insted of saying how he conquered Barrera, destroyed Morales, whatever

"Well Pacquiao won a title at a division that Elorde failed to do (lightweight)"

Seriously? Carlos Ortiz >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David Diaz.
yea the guy dont kno wassup...
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Old 07-10-2008, 08:20 PM
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Carlos Ortiz was one of the best lightweights ever. Believe that.
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Old 07-10-2008, 08:32 PM
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Carlos Ortiz was one of the best lightweights ever. Believe that.
He's a really nice guy. I used to see him a lot ringside at the fights in New York.
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Old 07-10-2008, 08:33 PM
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carlos ortiz is one of the most underrated fighters of all time.and I'm not saying that cause he's from la playa de ponce like me,or grew up in nyc like me.:

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Old 07-10-2008, 08:39 PM
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He's a really nice guy. I used to see him a lot ringside at the fights in New York.

Didn't Ortiz train Oscar De La Hoya for a short time?
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Old 07-10-2008, 08:42 PM
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Didn't Ortiz train Oscar De La Hoya for a short time?
I dont think so...
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Didn't Ortiz train Oscar De La Hoya for a short time?
Many people have trained ODLH, I wouldn't be surprised if Ortiz was among them.
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