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Old 06-15-2012, 09:46 AM
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You're thinking that time had a "beginning" though. Just because we can't grasp the concept of infinite time doesn't mean it doesn't work like that. But saying that "science" doesn't have the answers make you sound really kind of ignorant. Science isn't about having all the answers, it's about finding those answers based on what's observable. It's about making reasonable inferences about the universe as opposed to just getting stoned and looking at the stars and thinking you know the face of God.
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Old 06-15-2012, 09:52 AM
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TS is defintitely larry alt lol
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Old 06-15-2012, 10:29 AM
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youve got a universe and youve got its expansion with the big bang, but how did the big bang come into existance?

from another universe?

so how did that universe come into existance?

from another universe?

ect

ect

ect

sooo where did the first universe come from? for all we know it could be infinate, having allways existed and allways will exist.





but of course if we assume that to be true the idea of an infinate creator really isnt that far fetched.
It's much more far fetched than the notion that there was always "something" without a conscious creator. This is the whole creation fallacy: The insistence that EVERYTHING needs some sort of explanation as to beginnings... oh except for this all powerful creator monster who we can insist doesn't need to be explained.

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"And on the sixth day, Pesci, our Lord, created the step stool. And it was good. On the 7th day, it was determined he really was a funny guy."
I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to fuckin' amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?
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Old 06-15-2012, 10:33 AM
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They had people who spoke to burning bushes.

Nowadays we call them liars or just mentally ill but back then they not only chose to believe these people, but they also chose to live their lives according to what these people claimed.

For example: "Y'all stay down here while I go up that mountain and see what god wants us to do".
That mentally Ill liar you are referring to freed a whole nation of people from one of the most powerful kingdoms of that time. Pharaoh doesnt just let a whole workforce leave on an account of a mentally ill man.
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Old 06-15-2012, 11:35 AM
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Old 06-15-2012, 12:50 PM
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Just because you don't know what the answer is don't say God did it.

It is a cop out and it has been used many times before, before we used our scientific minds to find the real answers.

Once people though there was a river spirit that made the river flow, that God made the rains fall, that God made the sun rise, that God made man, that God made the earth.

But with the scientific method we have taken God out of the equation for these things.

Now we come to the question what made the big bang, many theories but none can be proven as yet, but lets not fall back on old habits by invoking God again just because it is beyond our understanding at the moment.
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Old 06-15-2012, 01:22 PM
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Who created the creator of the universe?

...and after that, who created the creator who created the creator of the universe?

All I can advise is don't try to understand it because you can't. It will take a long time for science to discover many things in this universe but the theories are definitely interesting.
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Old 06-15-2012, 04:10 PM
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We should all be blessed that larryx graces us with his presence, for unto him that we are able to understand such complex theories and explanation of our existence.

Now, what's in the green box Larry?
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Old 06-15-2012, 05:13 PM
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of course there's a creator...that should never be put in question in the first place.

look around you...everything aside from natural things, people believe it was created/invented by somebody. electricity didn't just appear from nowhere, somebody created it. you're conveniently driving your own car to get to your desired destination because somebody invented it. you believe that without question.

everything that is man-made and beneficial, we give credit to the inventor and we owe it to them whatever convenience we got right now because of their creations. we give them credit and rightfully so.

what about the trees and the mountains, rivers...the clouds...the sun. how can you not believe that somebody created those things? is it because nobody on record can tell you that they witnessed it when it was being created like those man-made creations?

this world we live in...this planet earth...why does it constantly revolve around the sun in a precise motion that engineering and science will never achieved. coincidence? that's foolishness.

there's a supreme being/creator out there...somebody whose wisdom is beyond our understanding. when will you give him credit?
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Old 06-15-2012, 05:27 PM
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of course there's a creator...that should never be put in question in the first place.

look around you...everything aside from natural things, people believe it was created/invented by somebody. electricity didn't just appear from nowhere, somebody created it. you're conveniently driving your own car to get to your desired destination because somebody invented it. you believe that without question.

everything that is man-made and beneficial, we give credit to the inventor and we owe it to them whatever convenience we got right now because of their creations. we give them credit and rightfully so.

what about the trees and the mountains, rivers...the clouds...the sun. how can you not believe that somebody created those things? is it because nobody on record can tell you that they witnessed it when it was being created like those man-made creations?


this world we live in...this planet earth...why does it constantly revolve around the sun in a precise motion that engineering and science will never achieved. coincidence? that's foolishness.

there's a supreme being/creator out there...somebody whose wisdom is beyond our understanding. when will you give him credit?
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