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View Poll Results: Did the judges make the right decision, based on the OFFICIAL CRITERIA?
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Old 06-14-2012, 06:27 PM
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Default The judges made the RIGHT decision, and here is why

First off, I had Pac winning the fight. But then again, fans and judges score a fight using different criteria. When you factor that in, I think the judges made the right decision.
  • Clean Punching

    Pac wins this no doubt.

  • Effective Aggression

    The judges thought Pacquiao was very aggressive but not effective, that he was missing wildly and getting off balanced.

  • Ring Generalship

    Ring Generalship is defined as fighting the way you want to fight. So the question to ask is, who fought the way they wanted. Did Pacquiao make it the kind of fight he wanted, or did Bradley.

    The fight was slow paced and more of a boxing match, which in the judges eyes is the type of fight Bradley wanted. Bradley controlled the pace with his jab for 2/3 of the rounds, and avoided exchanges. Pacquiao was not able to make it a brawl and force the toe to toe action like he wanted.

  • Defense

    I think Bradley demonstrated to the judges greater defense in slipping Pacquaio's punching, avoiding his flurries, and making him miss a lot

So Pacquiao landed the cleaner more effective punches, but that was only 1/4 of the criteria, and Bradley arguably won the other 3. Plus, if a guy controls the action for 2/3 of the round, and the other guy dominates the last 1/3, is it fair to give the round to the other guy?

So overall, maybe the real problem is how fights are scored. But I don't think you can blame the judges for following the official criteria
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Old 06-14-2012, 06:29 PM
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Old 06-14-2012, 06:31 PM
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I kind of agree. I had Pac winning, but I have Bradley winning using that criteria. Kind of like in court when a jury returns an unpopular decision, that they themselves dont believe, but is right according to the law.

As TS said, I think the real problem is the way judges are told to score a fight, not the judges themselves
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Old 06-14-2012, 06:32 PM
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Old 06-14-2012, 06:33 PM
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Bradley didnt do what he said he would do before the fight, so ring generalship goes to Pac. Bradley couldnt do what he originally wanted so surived as best as he could under the circumstances. He originally wanted to take it to Pac, but realized Pac was superior so had to have a different plan to the original.

Everything Pac did better, thats why he recieved less punches than Brad. Bradlesy pitter patter punches shouldnt even have counted if your opponent dont feel it, theres no point in defending it. Brads alll show, no go.

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Old 06-14-2012, 06:46 PM
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Okay, I actually bothered to read your post...

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Originally Posted by LBJ2010 View Post
[*]Clean Punching

Pac wins this no doubt.

[*]Effective Aggression

The judges thought Pacquiao was very aggressive but not effective, that he was missing wildly and getting off balanced.
and Bradley's aggression? it's one to say Pacquiao wasn't effective but surely you have to make a case as to why Bradley was better?


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[*]Ring Generalship

Ring Generalship is defined as fighting the way you want to fight. So the question to ask is, who fought the way they wanted. Did Pacquiao make it the kind of fight he wanted, or did Bradley.

The fight was slow paced and more of a boxing match, which in the judges eyes is the type of fight Bradley wanted.
Bradley controlled the pace with his jab for 2/3 of the rounds, and avoided exchanges. Pacquiao was not able to make it a brawl and force the toe to toe action like he wanted.
I disagree, from the start Pacquiao deliberately sat behind the guard and brought Bradley onto him numerous times until he hurt him - then Bradley got on his bike as hurt fighters usually do.

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[*]Defense

I think Bradley demonstrated to the judges greater defense in slipping Pacquaio's punching, avoiding his flurries, and making him miss a lot[/LIST]
So overall, maybe the real problem is how fights are scored. But I don't think you can blame the judges for following the official criteria
Only category you've really made a good case for Bradley is defense because Bradley did evade a lot punches, the others are for Pacquiao. Let's be honest, the judges scores are inexplicable.
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Old 06-14-2012, 06:48 PM
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9 rounds pac...1 round even...2 rounds Bradey ,and they were close
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Old 06-14-2012, 06:51 PM
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twist it any way you want, but anything less than a scorecard for Pac is borderline criminal. And I'm a Mayweather fan!
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Old 06-14-2012, 06:52 PM
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decision went to the wrong person..end of. you have 99.9% of boxing journalists (from ring magazine, espn, maxboxing, etc.), long time critics of pacquiao (mayweathers, teddy atlas, etc.), bradley's manager cameron dunkin, a slew of professional boxers and trainers all saying pac won...
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Old 06-14-2012, 06:56 PM
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If someone wanted to find ways to give someone the win, then you can do that with ANY fight.
Bottom line is Pacquiao landed the cleaner effective punches.
Despite what compubox says, Pac landed more than double.

There is a difference between counter punching to a victory, and surviving.
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