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Old 06-14-2012, 12:43 AM #11
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of course people would demand him to return the belt. floyd won clearly just like pac clearly beat bradley. neither fights were close imo.
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Old 06-14-2012, 12:43 AM #12
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i watched the fight, scored it, saw manny's reaction and his teams reaction....Roach know he lost that fight, why would he even bring up a past decision influencing the next fight...use your brain....if he knew without a shadow of doubt why would he say bull like that
Dude that's your opinion. Say it's your opinion. Don't go saying like this is what they said or admitted to.
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Old 06-14-2012, 12:59 AM #13
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Dude that's your opinion. Say it's your opinion. Don't go saying like this is what they said or admitted to.

so roach didnt say" maybe this has happened to us(robbed) because of what happened in the last fight?"

My Opinion as well as any other person with common sense who can read between the lines

I dont care who you are, you are not gonna keep getting decisions in close fights......Marquez got screwed 3 times man.....how in the hell did he fight this dude three times and land the shots he did and not come out with at least one win?

What fighter and his team would consider fighting someone a 4th time if they believed they beat the fighter? You know the answer
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Too bad Mayweather dominated Cotto. Not only did Floyd dominate Cotto landing more total punches and power punches..Floyd also was the busier fighter, something that has proven to win you fights nowadays when all else fails[Kotelnyk-Devon, Williams-Lara].

Total punches landed: Mayweather 179, Cotto 105.
Power punches landed: M 128, C 79
Jabs landed: M 50, C 30
Total punches throw: Mayweather 687, Cotto 506.

Mayweather also outlanded Cotto in every single round except one. Mayweather was also the busier fighter in every round.

Pacquiao-Bradley however, Bradley was the busier fighter in 8 rounds out of 12. Mayweather was busier than Cotto in 11 rounds out of 12. If Pacquiao was busier, he would have gotten the win, but there was several rounds where Bradley threw 80 punches to Pacquiao's 40, doubling Pacquiao's workrate in those rounds. Judges like that. It's stupid that workrate wins you fights, but workrate gave Pacquiao ridiculous decision wins over Marquez too. Gotta take the good with the bad.
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Too bad Mayweather dominated Cotto. Not only did Floyd dominate Cotto landing more total punches and power punches..Floyd also was the busier fighter, something that has proven to win you fights nowadays when all else fails[Kotelnyk-Devon, Williams-Lara].

Total punches landed: Mayweather 179, Cotto 105.
Power punches landed: M 128, C 79
Jabs landed: M 50, C 30
Total punches throw: Mayweather 687, Cotto 506.

Mayweather also outlanded Cotto in every single round except one. Mayweather was also the busier fighter in every round.

Pacquiao-Bradley however, Bradley was the busier fighter in 8 rounds out of 12. Mayweather was busier than Cotto in 11 rounds out of 12. If Pacquiao was busier, he would have gotten the win, but there was several rounds where Bradley threw 80 punches to Pacquiao's 40, doubling Pacquiao's workrate in those rounds. Judges like that. It's stupid that workrate wins you fights, but workrate gave Pacquiao ridiculous decision wins over Marquez too. Gotta take the good with the bad.
And Pacquiao lost the last 3 rounds against Bradley, which is the amount of rounds Mayweather lost against Cotto as a whole.
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Old 06-14-2012, 01:15 AM #16
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There wouldn't be petitions saying to reverse the decisions because REAL boxing fans know who won and don't need a "W" on Wikipedia...
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Pacquiaos fans would legitimize the win.
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Old 06-14-2012, 01:25 AM #18
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Too bad Mayweather dominated Cotto. Not only did Floyd dominate Cotto landing more total punches and power punches..Floyd also was the busier fighter, something that has proven to win you fights nowadays when all else fails[Kotelnyk-Devon, Williams-Lara].

Total punches landed: Mayweather 179, Cotto 105.
Power punches landed: M 128, C 79
Jabs landed: M 50, C 30
Total punches throw: Mayweather 687, Cotto 506.

Mayweather also outlanded Cotto in every single round except one. Mayweather was also the busier fighter in every round.

Pacquiao-Bradley however, Bradley was the busier fighter in 8 rounds out of 12. Mayweather was busier than Cotto in 11 rounds out of 12. If Pacquiao was busier, he would have gotten the win, but there was several rounds where Bradley threw 80 punches to Pacquiao's 40, doubling Pacquiao's workrate in those rounds. Judges like that. It's stupid that workrate wins you fights, but workrate gave Pacquiao ridiculous decision wins over Marquez too. Gotta take the good with the bad.
Great Analyzation combiined with facts

There is no way Cotto could have won that fight, whereas Manny left room for such a mishap


The same reason he lost this fight is the same reason Marquez never won a fight out of 3 against Manny.....If a fight is close, no knockdowns in a round the busier fighter usually wins it just worked against him this time

I believe regardless how many punches a fighter throws, the fighter who lands the cleaner more effective shots win a round as well as making your opponent miss......why in the hell should you get credit for flailing at air


They just have to let go that Manny isnt that 80-100 punches a round dynamo he was at 126....that was 7 years ago and 21 pounds ago
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so roach didnt say" maybe this has happened to us(robbed) because of what happened in the last fight?"
Nope he didn't. You're trying very hard to pass off opinions as facts.

http://www.boxingscene.com/roach-the...inst-us--53817
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Roach said he didn't know if Pacquiao's narrow decision over Juan Manuel Marquez in his last fight in November worked against him on this night.

"I'm not sure if our last fight had something to do with it because our last fight was a very close fight and a little controversial.

"Did they hold that against us? I'm not sure," Roach said.

This time, Roach said: "I didn't see that many close rounds."
Doesn't look like he admitted to losing at all. Only stating it was a close fight and the results were controversial.


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My Opinion as well as any other person with common sense who can read between the lines

I dont care who you are, you are not gonna keep getting decisions in close fights......Marquez got screwed 3 times man.....how in the hell did he fight this dude three times and land the shots he did and not come out with at least one win?

What fighter and his team would consider fighting someone a 4th time if they believed they beat the fighter? You know the answer
Well opinions are like asses...
Don't twist this around into a battle of who's opinion is better either. The bottom line is that you were passing off your opinion like it was reality.
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Ricans would be acting like Trindad-DLH. Knowing damn well he lost but as long as the judges gave it to him, that's what matters. Similar thing is going on with AM and Bradley.
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