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Old 06-12-2012, 12:13 PM
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I know what you mean. I would give a semi-related example of an instance..

I went to the Torres vs Holt 2 fight and was sitting on the far left "camera view" and from my vantage point 3 rows back it looked like Holt got him with a body shot then KO'd him... a lot of people at the fights dont have a clear view of the action, including the judges sometimes. Everyone on our side thought it was clean until they kept showing the slow-mo replay on the screens, Then everyone started booing, but that was clearly after the telecast.
I also know that crowds do sway judges with the ohhs and ahhs, especially at Pac fights.

And do you know if Lederman sits on the same side of the ring as the HBO guys do?
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Old 06-12-2012, 12:15 PM
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lol @ people trying to make this a Pacquiao vs. Bradley thread
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Old 06-12-2012, 12:20 PM
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I think there should be at least 20 cameras filming the ring...kind of like surveillance in the casinos... there should be a grid above the ring and around it, HD of course. and then all of the "issues " wether it be uts, butts, KO's , blocked punches whatever, could be better analized, kind of like a slow motion replay, but the more angles the better, its not like you have to cover a football field... just the ring, I know all that special lighting and stuff adds to the experience of a live fight, but there has to be a way to do it.
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i think the problem is not the spot where they are sitting because even dan rafael who was sitting almost next to the judges had the fight in a wide margin for pac 119-109, and he was even convince that bradley will take the upset b4 the fight

the faq is only the 2 judges on that view scored it the ugly way meant there is a problem and the problem wasnt the view lol

the pros on that spot is u can actually here how hard the punch land and if it did land or just hitting gloves
so apart from seeing the actual happenings of the fight u can actually hear it too which is really important for judging,

the problem is boxing needs to investigate the judges they picked and i mean really good, in every after fight...
and maybe add a little round by round inerview after the fight why they score it that way

when u had around 95% of boxing site giving the win to the loser means it aint right
I'm not talking about the Pacquiao fight.
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Old 06-12-2012, 12:22 PM
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lol @ people trying to make this a Pacquiao vs. Bradley thread
because nu matter how u think of the topic it has an example which happens to be the fight that just happened 3 days ago

so u cant blame people or me for mentioning that fight as an example
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Old 06-12-2012, 12:25 PM
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Cotto-Foreman@ Yankee Stadium when a towel flew in the ring from Foreman's corner
on HBO they didn't show or really get into what really happen and what the referee said that he decided to continue the fight watching it on TV wasn't completely different but I got to see shots that I didn't see live
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Old 06-12-2012, 12:26 PM
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I'm not talking about the Pacquiao fight.
i know but it is the most recent example we can get

all im saying is the spot aint the problem

boxing has stole alot of money from us by giving us an ugly decision such as that fight that just happened and they couldnt even give us a little something back by improving sheyt like judging investigation....
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i know but it is the most recent example we can get

all im saying is the spot aint the problem

boxing has stole alot of money from us by giving us an ugly decision such as that fight that just happened and they couldnt even give us a little something back by improving sheyt like judging investigation....
The spot can definitely be a problem. If you only view a fight from one angle, you're not seeing everything that's going on. A fight from 3 different angles can look like 3 different fights. I'd say what I'm saying is pretty accurate being that everyone who has been to a fight is concurring.
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Cotto-Foreman@ Yankee Stadium when a towel flew in the ring from Foreman's corner
on HBO they didn't show or really get into what really happen and what the referee said that he decided to continue the fight watching it on TV wasn't completely different but I got to see shots that I didn't see live
probably because u were in the roof part of the arena watching it on a big screen which is attach to the arena ceiling?
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While this is true about the judges seeing 1 angle at time, there are 3 judges all have different angles and the fighters are constantly turning and withen the 36 mins, no judge will simply have 1 guys back to him, for example for a whole fight

So it should even itself out withen a fight for 1 judge let alone 3
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