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Old 06-11-2012, 10:51 AM
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Default someone that personally knows bradley posted this up about a month ago

I say that [Bradley wins] thinking on business terms, not because Bradley is the better fighter [he's not]. I've met Bradley a bunch of times, and my brother knows him personally (his sister-in-law is like best friends with bradley's wife -- when he bought his wife a car after he signed with top rank, he hid it away in my bros' garage, lol)

I say "business terms" because Pac's near the end of his career and there's no ****ing way, after Arum sunk millions into Bradley with a sizable signing bonus, the money from the Casamayor fight, and the guarantee he's getting in this Pacquiao fight, that Arum would let Bradley lose.

Bradley is set to be Arum's new pet/cash cow. This fight will be a changing of the guard. If Bradley loses, his career (at least as a money maker for Arum) is over. Arum can't let that happen with the investment he's made in Bradley thus far -- if he loses, who else can he fight? his career is pretty established, and his resumé is impressive with wins over peterson, alexander, nate campbell and casamyor -- even though he's fairly unknown. If he loses against elite opposition, he's going to be seen as a B-rate fighter and there isnt much more he can do at this point -- maybe move up in weight? not too much left in the welterweight division right now, so he'd have to move up to like 154 or something, where he'd get destroyed.

On the other hand even if Pac loses, he's still marketable simply because of his status within the sport. A loss, or a controversial decision in a fixed fight would probably even make him MORE popular than he already is. People will be up in arms about that ****. They can make a rematch with Bradley, or see if a loss gets Mayweather in the ring. Either way, **** doesn't matter at this point in his career -- he's already achieved so much and largely cemented his legacy.

Obviously this is all conspiracy theory ****, but I wouldnt put it past Arum. Need proof?
look at Rios vs Abril, which was like 10 rounds to 2, and Rios still won
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Old 06-11-2012, 11:02 AM
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It does makes sense to me.
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Old 06-11-2012, 11:04 AM
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I say that [Bradley wins] thinking on business terms, not because Bradley is the better fighter [he's not]. I've met Bradley a bunch of times, and my brother knows him personally (his sister-in-law is like best friends with bradley's wife -- when he bought his wife a car after he signed with top rank, he hid it away in my bros' garage, lol)

I say "business terms" because Pac's near the end of his career and there's no ****ing way, after Arum sunk millions into Bradley with a sizable signing bonus, the money from the Casamayor fight, and the guarantee he's getting in this Pacquiao fight, that Arum would let Bradley lose.

Bradley is set to be Arum's new pet/cash cow. This fight will be a changing of the guard. If Bradley loses, his career (at least as a money maker for Arum) is over. Arum can't let that happen with the investment he's made in Bradley thus far -- if he loses, who else can he fight? his career is pretty established, and his resumé is impressive with wins over peterson, alexander, nate campbell and casamyor -- even though he's fairly unknown. If he loses against elite opposition, he's going to be seen as a B-rate fighter and there isnt much more he can do at this point -- maybe move up in weight? not too much left in the welterweight division right now, so he'd have to move up to like 154 or something, where he'd get destroyed.

On the other hand even if Pac loses, he's still marketable simply because of his status within the sport. A loss, or a controversial decision in a fixed fight would probably even make him MORE popular than he already is. People will be up in arms about that ****. They can make a rematch with Bradley, or see if a loss gets Mayweather in the ring. Either way, **** doesn't matter at this point in his career -- he's already achieved so much and largely cemented his legacy.

Obviously this is all conspiracy theory ****, but I wouldnt put it past Arum. Need proof?
look at Rios vs Abril, which was like 10 rounds to 2, and Rios still won
Poor investment cause who's going to pay to watch Bradley on PPV after his corrupt win
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Old 06-11-2012, 11:35 AM
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The very first thing that came to my thoughts. I couldn't agree more, Bradley is a B class sparring partner type with B class opponents. Bob Arum is just smart and an ass at the same time LOL



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Old 06-11-2012, 11:38 AM
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I the think he is bang on, we should all know by now that Arum could care less about the sport, its fans or the fighters. Its all about how he can fill his pockets.

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Old 06-11-2012, 12:28 PM
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I the think he is bang on, we should all know by now that Arum could care less about the sport, its fans or the fighters. Its all about how he can fill his pockets.

Picture looks pretty accurate...
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Old 06-11-2012, 12:48 PM
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Bradley is still going to be Bradley, I would say this though...Arum really need to do more to market Bradley, The 247 did help him IMO and i could see Bradley is now following the Mayweather blueprint so maybe he can be a cash-cow afterall, I still have no doubts that Pac was sold out here by Arum no doubt in my mind.
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Old 06-11-2012, 12:55 PM
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Bradley is still going to be Bradley, I would say this though...Arum really need to do more to market Bradley, The 247 did help him IMO and i could see Bradley is now following the Mayweather blueprint so maybe he can be a cash-cow afterall, I still have no doubts that Pac was sold out here by Arum no doubt in my mind.
I agree 100%

Think about it.....Rios has just been exposed. Gamboa jumped ship, Jones got KO'd...Pavlik exposed., Lopez exposed...lee is a fraud.....when you really think about it, Top Rank has Manny and that's about it.

Bradley is the only fighter they have that is close to being marketable at this point, and Arum has stated several times, when Bradley was with Shaw, that he could build Bradley up into a big name.
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Old 06-11-2012, 01:49 PM
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Yup. sure fire fixed. no doubt about it.
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I the think he is bang on, we should all know by now that Arum could care less about the sport, its fans or the fighters. Its all about how he can fill his pockets.



That pic explains everything.
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