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Old 06-11-2012, 10:34 AM
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Maybe this is just me, but the last 30 seconds of a round does not mean more than the first 2 minutes of a round. The consistent theme of the fight was Pac would get outboxed for the first 2 minutes or so of every round, and then would try to flurry in the last 30-45 seconds and hope the judges only remembered that. HBO did notice it a couple of times, but tried to say Bradley wasn't doing anything either, ignoring the fact that he was jabbing, going to the body, and scoring points while Pac followed him around the ring doing nothing. Not to mention for all the talk that Bradley never landed anything that stunned Pac the closest I ever saw Bradley to being stunned was when he sprained his ankle after a wild combination that Pac landed 1 punch in.
Bradley wasn't landing anything meaningful either on those moments, most of those are double jabs that either didn't hit or hit the gloves.
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Old 06-11-2012, 10:36 AM
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^^When you say Bradley outbox Pac, are you talking about the pitty pat jabs that Bradley was throwing while backing up?? Most of those jabs were landing on Pac's gloves. Pac was fighting in spurts, whenever he felt like engaging, he would do so. I agree with one post that I've read in this board that when Pac didn't do enough in a round, Bradley did even less.
No I mean the jabs that Bradley consistently snapped Pac's head back with and busted up his mouth with, or did you ignore the only person bleeding in the fight was Pac? Boy for a guy with no power who landed nothing he sure busted his mouth up pretty good. Also for a guy with hammer fists who was supposedly landing so many clean punches Bradley's face sure looked like he hadn't been hit by a thing all night. I must be imaging things.
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Old 06-11-2012, 10:38 AM
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Old 06-11-2012, 10:42 AM
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gr8 find and pretty much sums why so many are disgusted. i never call close fight a roobery, even if it dont go the way i scored it. but i saw only 2 or 3 rounds at most for bradley.
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Old 06-11-2012, 10:53 AM
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Maybe this is just me, but the last 30 seconds of a round does not mean more than the first 2 minutes of a round. The consistent theme of the fight was Pac would get outboxed for the first 2 minutes or so of every round, and then would try to flurry in the last 30-45 seconds and hope the judges only remembered that. HBO did notice it a couple of times, but tried to say Bradley wasn't doing anything either, ignoring the fact that he was jabbing, going to the body, and scoring points while Pac followed him around the ring doing nothing. Not to mention for all the talk that Bradley never landed anything that stunned Pac the closest I ever saw Bradley to being stunned was when he sprained his ankle after a wild combination that Pac landed 1 punch in.
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No I mean the jabs that Bradley consistently snapped Pac's head back with and busted up his mouth with, or did you ignore the only person bleeding in the fight was Pac? Boy for a guy with no power who landed nothing he sure busted his mouth up pretty good. Also for a guy with hammer fists who was supposedly landing so many clean punches Bradley's face sure looked like he hadn't been hit by a thing all night. I must be imaging things.
Snapping Pac's head back? The only real time that Bradley was able to 'snap Pac's head back' was when they would go toe-to-toe and Pac's always get the best of Tim. And now we're going to base the winner of the fight on who bleeds more.
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Old 06-11-2012, 11:01 AM
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Snapping Pac's head back? The only real time that Bradley was able to 'snap Pac's head back' was when they would go toe-to-toe and Pac's always get the best of Tim. And now we're going to base the winner of the fight on who bleeds more.
Nope that's not what I based my opinion on, just thought it was funny that the guy that supposedly landed nothing busted the other guys mouth up, and the guy who was landing bombs didn't leave a scratch on him. Bradley won that fight by jabbing, countering, body punching, and slipping a majority of Pac punches. He also won it because Pac would follow him around the ring for 2+ minutes of each round eating jabs and body punches and giving nothing back in return.
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Old 06-11-2012, 11:04 AM
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No I mean the jabs that Bradley consistently snapped Pac's head back with and busted up his mouth with, or did you ignore the only person bleeding in the fight was Pac? Boy for a guy with no power who landed nothing he sure busted his mouth up pretty good. Also for a guy with hammer fists who was supposedly landing so many clean punches Bradley's face sure looked like he hadn't been hit by a thing all night. I must be imaging things.
Yes because you watched a different fight. 99.99% who watched the fight thought Pac won. Even those hardcore Pac haters and Bradleys fans thought Pac won. So you must be a troll.
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Old 06-11-2012, 11:09 AM
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Nope that's not what I based my opinion on, just thought it was funny that the guy that supposedly landed nothing busted the other guys mouth up, and the guy who was landing bombs didn't leave a scratch on him. Bradley won that fight by jabbing, countering, body punching, and slipping a majority of Pac punches. He also won it because Pac would follow him around the ring for 2+ minutes of each round eating jabs and body punches and giving nothing back in return.
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Old 06-11-2012, 11:12 AM
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Nope that's not what I based my opinion on, just thought it was funny that the guy that supposedly landed nothing busted the other guys mouth up, and the guy who was landing bombs didn't leave a scratch on him. Bradley won that fight by jabbing, countering, body punching, and slipping a majority of Pac punches. He also won it because Pac would follow him around the ring for 2+ minutes of each round eating jabs and body punches and giving nothing back in return.
So you really believe that Bradley won this fight huh. I mean, sure I understand some people that are arguing that this was a close fight than what some people are saying, but to think that Bradley actually won. Hoookkaayyyy...

And lol at giving nothing back in return, watch the fight again. Yes Pac was following him around, and Bradley was backing up and throwing weak jabs that were landing on Pac's glove. And like I said, whenever Pac engages him, Bradley always ends up in queer street.

You keep talking about how they look after the fight. Did you watch Pac-Marquez III? Marquez was swelling all over, but didn't mean Pac won that fight. I got Marquez up by 2 points.
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Old 06-11-2012, 11:17 AM
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Yes because you watched a different fight. 99.99% who watched the fight thought Pac won. Even those hardcore Pac haters and Bradleys fans thought Pac won. So you must be a troll.
Believe what you want to believe. I think the fight was close enough to go either way, and the first time I watched it I thought it was 7-5 Pac with Bradley winning 1, 2, 10, 11, and 12. I thought there were other close rounds, but I believe I was partially influenced by how badly HBO thought Pac was winning those rounds. In my own mind I kept thinking maybe I was missing something because all the rounds are competitive and yet they think Pac is dominating all of them. Because of that I defaulted in the rounds I thought could have gone either way and gave them all the Pac. When I rewatched the fight on mute I realized how much I was being swayed by HBO's announcing.
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