Bookmark Website  | Free Registration  | The Team
Boxing Champions |  Boxing Schedule |  Boxing Video  |  Boxing History   |  Pound For Pound  | Lounge  | The Wire |  Audio  | Arcade

Navigation
Go Back   Boxing Forum > Boxing Forums > Non Stop Boxing
View Poll Results: is he a top ten heavyweight great?
yes 11 18.64%
no 32 54.24%
on the cusp 7 11.86%
no one in this era will help his case 9 15.25%
Voters: 59. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
Thread Navigation

#11
Old 05-28-2012, 07:13 PM
Michael Paine
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 7,670
Rep Power: 31 Michael Paine has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Paine has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Paine has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Paine has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Paine has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Paine has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Paine has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Paine has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Paine has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Paine has a reputation beyond reputeMichael Paine has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 164,819.82
Bank: 389,482,418,360.95
Total Points: 389,482,583,180.77
ownage of a pactard - I'm so sorry Pacquiao vs Marquez IV! - Check_hooks you deserve a kick for your hatred of the Klitschkos - Freedom. Happy belated 1 year Anniversary. - E.P.T. Hahahaha, funny reply my ninja, here's another cake for your upcoming 2 year anniversary. - E.P.T. 
happy holidays, great poster - sugarsmosley 
Default

Even one of his biggest nuthuggers says he only on the cusp.
Reply With Quote
Michael Paine is offline
Advertisements
>>>TO REMOVE THESE ADS, PLEASE REGISTER HERE FOR FREE<<<
#12
Old 05-28-2012, 07:16 PM
Weebler I
El Weeblerito I
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 21,382
Rep Power: 59 Weebler I has a reputation beyond reputeWeebler I has a reputation beyond reputeWeebler I has a reputation beyond reputeWeebler I has a reputation beyond reputeWeebler I has a reputation beyond reputeWeebler I has a reputation beyond reputeWeebler I has a reputation beyond reputeWeebler I has a reputation beyond reputeWeebler I has a reputation beyond reputeWeebler I has a reputation beyond reputeWeebler I has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 131,337,758,722.57
Bank: 10,567,971,609.47
Total Points: 141,905,730,332.04
Ricky &amp;quot;The Hitman&amp;quot; Hatton - Freedom. We bicker a lot, are we brothers? Lol it's all in fun! Keeps the board alive - Atreyu Khalil have a blue parallelogram - Jack Napier Happy holidays bro! - led* Top Poster - Dr Rumack 
Probably the most objective poster on this site. - Yosser Hughes Can't green so have this - Alx. Thanks - E.P.T. happy holidays, great poster - sugarsmosley 
Cancer - Epilepsy - Foster Care - Gynecological Cancer - Rett Syndrome - PensionKiller Arthritis - Child Abuse - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - Dystonia - Education - Free Speech - Interstitial Cystitis - ME/CFIDS - Reye's Syndrome - Save the Music - Teens Against Smoking - Victim's Rights - Water Quality - bigsmoothh 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by therealpugilist View Post
His era may be weak in the eyes of some but so was Joe Louis', Larry Holmes, and Rocky Marciano's era.....dude has beaten all the worthy opponents of his era and has shown the ability to comeback after big losses. I have to say he is on the cusp, there is no one really left for him to fight. He is for sure a hall of famer
If Chisora beats Haye (huge 'if') Wladimir should take that fight. Povetkin is also undefeated even if his latest bouts haven't been stellar. A Valuev fight sells too.

In a weak era there's no excuse not to take these fights.
Reply With Quote
Weebler I is online now
#13
Old 05-28-2012, 08:12 PM
jimmy1569
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 2,921
Rep Power: 0 jimmy1569 has a reputation beyond reputejimmy1569 has a reputation beyond reputejimmy1569 has a reputation beyond reputejimmy1569 has a reputation beyond reputejimmy1569 has a reputation beyond reputejimmy1569 has a reputation beyond reputejimmy1569 has a reputation beyond reputejimmy1569 has a reputation beyond reputejimmy1569 has a reputation beyond reputejimmy1569 has a reputation beyond reputejimmy1569 has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 150,278,402.77
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 150,278,402.77
To help wipe away the tears after the Klitschkos are KO'd by Wilder - Deal With It Vitali Klitschko is an ATG - Freedom. Vitali beats any HW from any era - MASTERFUL So you can put it on each time you kiss the Klitschkos' asses. - ShoulderRoll Merry Christmas &amp; a happy NY! - dancovboxer 
Klitschko's are the best broski, THE best! - dancovboxer school them haters - Superflo777 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joeyzagz View Post
Wlad's been KOd 3 times, AND his resume is piss poor.

Show me another top 10er who has been KOD 3 fckin times and has a resume as bland as Wladimirs?
Lennox Lewis comes close KOD 2 TIMES... RETIREE on another. Wlad never went to sleep... Lewis went to sleep once..... so I'd say Lewis is right on the cusp of that equation Joe C.
Reply With Quote
jimmy1569 is offline
#14
Old 05-28-2012, 08:23 PM
Joeyzagz
Soir
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 6,333
Rep Power: 22 Joeyzagz has a reputation beyond reputeJoeyzagz has a reputation beyond reputeJoeyzagz has a reputation beyond reputeJoeyzagz has a reputation beyond reputeJoeyzagz has a reputation beyond reputeJoeyzagz has a reputation beyond reputeJoeyzagz has a reputation beyond reputeJoeyzagz has a reputation beyond reputeJoeyzagz has a reputation beyond reputeJoeyzagz has a reputation beyond reputeJoeyzagz has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 20,157,090,348.36
Bank: 4,650,295,658.02
Total Points: 24,807,386,006.38
Have an e-beer on me - FRKO what a dummy you are - Freedom. still in the red after years of posting here - Freedom. troll - Simurgh 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jimmy1569 View Post
Lennox Lewis comes close KOD 2 TIMES... RETIREE on another. Wlad never went to sleep... Lewis went to sleep once..... so I'd say Lewis is right on the cusp of that equation Joe C.
Lots of people were stopped twice:Joe Louis, Vitali, Pacquiao, Holyfield.

But 3 times is a different threshold altogether. You wont find many ATGs with 3 kos on their record. And the ones that do were past prime or had a hell of a resume to back it up.

Who has Wlad fought to warrant being stopped 3 times? Its ridiculous to even put him in the top 20.
Reply With Quote
Joeyzagz is offline
#15
Old 05-28-2012, 08:39 PM
jimmy1569
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 2,921
Rep Power: 0 jimmy1569 has a reputation beyond reputejimmy1569 has a reputation beyond reputejimmy1569 has a reputation beyond reputejimmy1569 has a reputation beyond reputejimmy1569 has a reputation beyond reputejimmy1569 has a reputation beyond reputejimmy1569 has a reputation beyond reputejimmy1569 has a reputation beyond reputejimmy1569 has a reputation beyond reputejimmy1569 has a reputation beyond reputejimmy1569 has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 150,278,402.77
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 150,278,402.77
To help wipe away the tears after the Klitschkos are KO'd by Wilder - Deal With It Vitali Klitschko is an ATG - Freedom. Vitali beats any HW from any era - MASTERFUL So you can put it on each time you kiss the Klitschkos' asses. - ShoulderRoll Merry Christmas &amp; a happy NY! - dancovboxer 
Klitschko's are the best broski, THE best! - dancovboxer school them haters - Superflo777 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joeyzagz View Post
Lots of people were stopped twice:Joe Louis, Vitali, Pacquiao, Holyfield.

But 3 times is a different threshold altogether. You wont find many ATGs with 3 kos on their record. And the ones that do were past prime or had a hell of a resume to back it up.

Who has Wlad fought to warrant being stopped 3 times? Its ridiculous to even put him in the top 20.
Roy Jones Jr.. 5 or 6 times his jaw was shattered & half those times he was unconscious (still managed to knock you down)


First off Wlad was REALLY only waxed once.. HE won about 14 of the 15 rds or so he FOUGHT vs Brewster & Puritty & was stopped on exhaustion due to overly getting excited on his beatdowns of said opponents & forgot to put the brakes on... so technically Lenny has been ktfo twice by just two punches... Wlad in those two fights probably didn't take that many punches when the bouts were stopped.... so therein lies your answer. Everyone knows 4 of the 5 Klitschko stoppages were due to Klitschko's bodies failing them... right.
Reply With Quote
jimmy1569 is offline
#16
Old 05-28-2012, 08:50 PM
res
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 5,282
Rep Power: 22 res has a reputation beyond reputeres has a reputation beyond reputeres has a reputation beyond reputeres has a reputation beyond reputeres has a reputation beyond reputeres has a reputation beyond reputeres has a reputation beyond reputeres has a reputation beyond reputeres has a reputation beyond reputeres has a reputation beyond reputeres has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 107,790,148.58
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 107,790,148.58
Thanks for your help! - Bendigo To the 80's cartoons. - WTFBALLZ 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by therealpugilist View Post
If we are gonna nitpick Marciano's resume is underwhelming, as is Joe Louis; and Larry Holmes....the only top ten heavyweight greats that have beaten a prime fellow great was Ali, Foreman, and Frazier...they all did it beating each other......Sonny Liston, Lennox Lewis, even Holyfield none of them beat prime great heavyweights....the closest was Holyfield in the Bowe rematch but Bowe never lived up to his talent

The other guy made a good point here below.

Quote:
Vitali beat a few of them for him and Vitali had to avenge his losses palming fighters off onto your brother because their style suits him better doesn't make a great.
Both Vlad and Vit have done this, Vlad with Sanders and Vit with Byrd.
Reply With Quote
res is offline
#17
Old 05-28-2012, 09:00 PM
Joeyzagz
Soir
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 6,333
Rep Power: 22 Joeyzagz has a reputation beyond reputeJoeyzagz has a reputation beyond reputeJoeyzagz has a reputation beyond reputeJoeyzagz has a reputation beyond reputeJoeyzagz has a reputation beyond reputeJoeyzagz has a reputation beyond reputeJoeyzagz has a reputation beyond reputeJoeyzagz has a reputation beyond reputeJoeyzagz has a reputation beyond reputeJoeyzagz has a reputation beyond reputeJoeyzagz has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 20,157,090,348.36
Bank: 4,650,295,658.02
Total Points: 24,807,386,006.38
Have an e-beer on me - FRKO what a dummy you are - Freedom. still in the red after years of posting here - Freedom. troll - Simurgh 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jimmy1569 View Post

First off Wlad was REALLY only waxed once.. HE won about 14 of the 15 rds or so he FOUGHT vs Brewster & Puritty & was stopped on exhaustion due to overly getting excited on his beatdowns of said opponents & forgot to put the brakes on..
No one gives a damn about how many rounds you won at Heavyweight. To give you an idea of how irrelevant round-winning is, Lennox WON 4 out of the 5 completed rounds in his losses to Mccall and Rahman.



Majority of the time its the man who causes the most damage who wins the fight. Scorecards are for figure skaters and ping-pong tournaments.
[CENTER]
Reply With Quote
Joeyzagz is offline
#18
Old 05-28-2012, 09:05 PM
bibleofboxing
Banned
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 40
Rep Power: 0 bibleofboxing is on a distinguished road
Points: 1,000,002,616.84
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 1,000,002,616.84
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by therealpugilist View Post
Marciano's best win is over a washed up Joe Louis....go figure anybodys resume can be picked to pieces....Klitschko has beaten more top ten heavyweights of his time than everyone besides Louis or maybe Ali
lol I think you're mistaken about Rocky's best win. But anyway...
Reply With Quote
bibleofboxing is offline
#19
Old 05-28-2012, 09:39 PM
Johnnybur
Contender
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Fort Bliss, Texas
Age: 38
Posts: 339
Rep Power: 8 Johnnybur has a reputation beyond reputeJohnnybur has a reputation beyond reputeJohnnybur has a reputation beyond reputeJohnnybur has a reputation beyond reputeJohnnybur has a reputation beyond reputeJohnnybur has a reputation beyond reputeJohnnybur has a reputation beyond reputeJohnnybur has a reputation beyond reputeJohnnybur has a reputation beyond reputeJohnnybur has a reputation beyond reputeJohnnybur has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 34,400.95
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 34,400.95
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Own3d View Post
Wlad has beat nobody worth a damn his best win is a CW that he was so afraid of that he threw nothing but the jab and grabbed when he got close.
Nobody worth a damn? Dude has beaten everyone put in front of him, all number one contenders and former champions. I know it pisses you off that he is the man in Heavyweight boxing, and has been for the past 6 years but damn. Chill out. Dont be so damn full of hate. All he does is win.
Reply With Quote
Johnnybur is offline
#20
Old 05-28-2012, 09:43 PM
Johnnybur
Contender
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Fort Bliss, Texas
Age: 38
Posts: 339
Rep Power: 8 Johnnybur has a reputation beyond reputeJohnnybur has a reputation beyond reputeJohnnybur has a reputation beyond reputeJohnnybur has a reputation beyond reputeJohnnybur has a reputation beyond reputeJohnnybur has a reputation beyond reputeJohnnybur has a reputation beyond reputeJohnnybur has a reputation beyond reputeJohnnybur has a reputation beyond reputeJohnnybur has a reputation beyond reputeJohnnybur has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 34,400.95
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 34,400.95
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joeyzagz View Post
Lots of people were stopped twice:Joe Louis, Vitali, Pacquiao, Holyfield.

But 3 times is a different threshold altogether. You wont find many ATGs with 3 kos on their record. And the ones that do were past prime or had a hell of a resume to back it up.

Who has Wlad fought to warrant being stopped 3 times? Its ridiculous to even put him in the top 20.
Congratulations. You have pictures of a dude with a cut eye that he received from one punch, and a cut like that is going to bleed. You act like he was getting his ass kicked the whole fight, he was ahead on all scorecards. People love showing that pic, as if it depicts the whole fight, which it doesnt. And if you put it on there 5 or 6 times like you did, it adds to the effect. Good job.
Reply With Quote
Johnnybur is offline
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
all-time, considered, deserve, heavyweight?, klitschko...does, wladimir

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Privacy Policy - Submit News - Feedback - Site Map - Advertise with Us

Copyright 2003-2013 BoxingScene LLC All rights reserved.

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:41 AM.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.