Why are people so hard on Ward and he actually proved he is the best in his division?

therealpugilist

While people are waiting on Mayweather and Pacquaio to prove they are the best in the welterweight division against each other, Andre Ward basically cleaned out his division. He clearly beat the number 2 and 3 guy in Froch and Kessler, and had some other good wins against top ten guys and fringe contenders.

He is the most well rounded guy in his division and all that is missing his dramatic knockout wins.

Ward is the goods and IMO he should be top five in the p4p lists and most definitely ahead of Martinez who is just as dominant but with lesser competition.

Piper the Great

The only issue I got with him is the fact that he never hitnthe road during the super 6. Everybody else had to deal with things like stopping camp, jet lag, during training.

Jack Napier

who's hard on Ward?
there's not many here who dislike him
maybe he lacks a big fanbase, but he's mostly liked around here
there's a few people here stuck on his headbutts like with Bradley
other than that, Ward doesn't get dissed here, he gets props
and why have ducking Bute on the poll? that's fucking retarded

therealpugilist

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Originally Posted by Floyddabesteva

Ward's not exciting. He's too much into religion AND he's not hatable (like Floyd)
hence he got no attractive qualities to most boxing fans. hence they don't hate him but they just either dislike him or pretend he don't exist.

There is also no anti Ward to build ward up on.

If there was a SMW Anti Ward. Some Jesus hating freak who knocks out people and calls out Ward and God and make fun of his believes and life style,

then we got oursevles a mega mega fight rivalry

but there is no anti ward..

The only mega fight was Lucian Bute.. who just got ktfo by Carl Froch

a B rated Fighter.... who Ward boringly schooled.

The good news is

the anti ward might come
ward is only 27... anti ward for sure will appear and then you can see a SMW version of Floyd vs Pac debate

I see what you are saying....Ward is so serious and about his business it affects his marketability in some ways. He doesnt have the bad guy angle, isnt a huge puncher or brawler, but IMO he is the type of fighter most need to be like. He doesnt do that bs trash talk, knows his sport very well, and takes his craft seriously.

Broken Dreams**

i dont not like him.

his a great fighter.A minus at the moment.

A plus if he stays undefeated, and beats good oppoistion.

NEETzsche

people don't like UD merchants. and personality-wise, he's like the most boring person ever.

Bushbaby

Because he isn't one of boxing's biggest draws. Lets keep it real here. Ward dominated (or beat) every fighter he's faced in arguably boxing's best division.

Someone brought up Martinez, who's riding a brutal ko streak, whether people feel his opposition lately, or not.

Floyd took 3 titles in a row from champs. on paper that's undeniable.

But Pacman, he's done absolutely nothing in 3 fights to still be on top of the pfp list, real talk. He stopped no one. He looked foolish chasing a shot sugar Shane & a lightweight beat his a$$ in the eyes of 80% of those that saw the fight. But because he's the 2nd biggest draw in boxing, people try to discredit the Wards & Martinez's to keep Pacman where he doesn't belong. Simply because he makes money.

That's why people are hard on Ward & on Martinez.

southpaw_07

He doesn't take out his elite opponents and seems he's always settling down for a points win.
His problem is the same as Chad Dawson, skilled fighter but will never become a super star and hence won't make the big bucks, his own fault.
The only ones going to sleep when he fights is the audience / TV viewers, his opponents are safe from a KO/TKO loss.

Drunk Punch

Andre Ward, everything about him is boring, he has a stupid nickname and his wife aint all that.

KnockUTheFukOut · 02:42 PM

for some because he is American, for others it is because he is Black (or mixed with Black), then it is others who are just bitter Kessler fans

But the hate on Ward is mostly on the Internet, fukin little kids and stupid men who don't know anything about Boxing, they think the Boxing is just two bums standing in the Middle of the Ring Swing away with Power Punches

They truly don't understand boxing so yeah to them Andre Ward, Chad Dawson Mayweather, Aselmo Moreno, Rignodeaux, Klitchko's...ironically the Truly SKILLED BOXERS in Boxing Today are Labeled "BORING" that is not a coincidence, it just shows you that this current ERA of boxing fans are not very smart when it comes to the Sport of Boxing...Casual Fans come to see Knock Outs and if it is not a KO then "THE FIGHT WAS BORING"

But Ward gets his Respect, he is rated #1 in his Division by most and he is Top 5 P4P, what more Respect can you ask for? Who gives a ***** what a few Internet People thinks

some idiot who never boxed a day in his life on the internet trying to tell Professional Fighters who they should fight is actually fukin LAUGHABLE if you think about it and it is even funnier when you have people on Forums acting as if they have the Formula to defeat someone like "MAYWEATHER"...yeah it is easy to say what you "WOULD DO" when your not the one in the Ring getting hit in the face and to the body

View Poll Results: Why are people so hard on Ward?
His style isnt exciting	9	64.29%
he hasnt beat the best competition	2	14.29%
He ducked Bute	1	7.14%
He isnt a hard puncher	2	14.29%
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Piper the Great Undisputed Champion Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,156 Rep Power: 10 Points: 27,783.71 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 27,783.71 Donate	The only issue I got with him is the fact that he never hitnthe road during the super 6. Everybody else had to deal with things like stopping camp, jet lag, during training.

Jack Napier It's Raining Whores Join Date: May 2010 Location: Whoreville Posts: 7,459 Rep Power: 37 Points: 1,000,010,133.53 Bank: 67,895,100,485.92 Total Points: 68,895,110,619.45 Donate	who's hard on Ward? there's not many here who dislike him maybe he lacks a big fanbase, but he's mostly liked around here there's a few people here stuck on his headbutts like with Bradley other than that, Ward doesn't get dissed here, he gets props and why have ducking Bute on the poll? that's fucking retarded

Broken Dreams** Banned Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 76 Rep Power: 0 Points: 2,221.15 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 2,221.15 Donate	i dont not like him. his a great fighter.A minus at the moment. A plus if he stays undefeated, and beats good oppoistion.

NEETzsche Undisputed Champion Join Date: Oct 2011 Age: 13 Posts: 1,008 Rep Power: 0 Points: 5,528,100.34 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 5,528,100.34 Donate	people don't like UD merchants. and personality-wise, he's like the most boring person ever.

southpaw_07 Undisputed Champion Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,683 Rep Power: 18 Points: 298,821.95 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 298,821.95 Donate	He doesn't take out his elite opponents and seems he's always settling down for a points win. His problem is the same as Chad Dawson, skilled fighter but will never become a super star and hence won't make the big bucks, his own fault. The only ones going to sleep when he fights is the audience / TV viewers, his opponents are safe from a KO/TKO loss.

Drunk Punch In Asian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Hong Kong 香港 Posts: 4,816 Rep Power: 18 Points: 50,073,486.14 Bank: 17,646,124,404.68 Total Points: 17,696,197,890.82 Donate	Andre Ward, everything about him is boring, he has a stupid nickname and his wife aint all that.