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Old 05-26-2012, 11:38 PM
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Pretty much. And he was righ sayin Bute had to prove himself instead of just waiting in the wings and getting the winner of the Super 6.
This is right on point. Why should a guy who fought nobody while everyone else in the division was fighting each other, all of a sudden be in position to fight the man at that weight?
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Old 05-26-2012, 11:40 PM
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yeah I think Bute could only beat Abraham and Taylor he would have lost to the rest
He wouldn't of beaten the Taylor that Froch fought and needed a come from behind ko to beat.
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Old 05-27-2012, 12:11 AM
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Old 05-27-2012, 12:29 AM
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This is the problem with the majority of boxing fans and the media.

I'm not a fan of either Bute or Froch, but definitely give Froch a lot of respect for this win. He crushed Bute.

But here is the problem, just completely disregard that Bute shut out very good fighters in Sakio Bika and Glen Johnson, knocked out Andrade and Miranda, and manhandled outmatched opponents like Magee and Zuniga like he was supposed to. Just disregard these wins because he just lost a fight, call him hypejob, bum, never was any good just because of a loss. Then turn around and say this was a great win for Froch.

Seriously, Carl Froch just beat an elite fighter in Lucian Bute, don't take credit away from the win by saying Bute is a hypejob. The truth is, to beat Johnson and Bika the way Bute did, you HAVE to be either a VERY good fighter or an elite fighter. At least Bute is one of those too. And Froch beat him.

IMO, Bute did not get exposed, he is not a hype job, and he is not a bum, Froch just had the style to steamroll through Bute. That's all. Ward vs Bute goes the distance, with Ward probably winning. Ward most likely dominates Froch again. Bute vs Kessler probably ends up being a close fight, Kessler vs Froch II would probably end up being a close fight, Bute probably beats Abraham, Bute probably beats Pavlik, Dirrell probably beats Bute, Kessler, and Froch. Styles make fights. When will all this "Blah Blah Blah got exposed, he's not good, I knew it" stop?
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Old 05-27-2012, 12:43 AM
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This is the problem with the majority of boxing fans and the media.

I'm not a fan of either Bute or Froch, but definitely give Froch a lot of respect for this win. He crushed Bute.

But here is the problem, just completely disregard that Bute shut out very good fighters in Sakio Bika and Glen Johnson, knocked out Andrade and Miranda, and manhandled outmatched opponents like Magee and Zuniga like he was supposed to. Just disregard these wins because he just lost a fight, call him hypejob, bum, never was any good just because of a loss. Then turn around and say this was a great win for Froch.

Seriously, Carl Froch just beat an elite fighter in Lucian Bute, don't take credit away from the win by saying Bute is a hypejob. The truth is, to beat Johnson and Bika the way Bute did, you HAVE to be either a VERY good fighter or an elite fighter. At least Bute is one of those too. And Froch beat him.

IMO, Bute did not get exposed, he is not a hype job, and he is not a bum, Froch just had the style to steamroll through Bute. That's all. Ward vs Bute goes the distance, with Ward probably winning. Ward most likely dominates Froch again. Bute vs Kessler probably ends up being a close fight, Kessler vs Froch II would probably end up being a close fight, Bute probably beats Abraham, Bute probably beats Pavlik, Dirrell probably beats Bute, Kessler, and Froch. Styles make fights. When will all this "Blah Blah Blah got exposed, he's not good, I knew it" stop?
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Old 05-27-2012, 12:58 AM
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Ward is not that good

If you think he has the balls or power to stop a Bute in 5 rounds your kidding yourself.
That doesn't make Ward a worst fighter...stylewise, Ward probably wouldn't get Bute out of there, but Bute would be a fish out of water against Ward. Andre would bully him and rough him up ALL night.

The man in your avatar (Calzaghe) probably wouldn't have been able to get a stoppage over Bute,does that make him "not that great" or less of a fighter??? no.

Ward has proven himself to be the best in his division.
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Old 05-27-2012, 01:32 AM
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This is the problem with the majority of boxing fans and the media.

I'm not a fan of either Bute or Froch, but definitely give Froch a lot of respect for this win. He crushed Bute.

But here is the problem, just completely disregard that Bute shut out very good fighters in Sakio Bika and Glen Johnson, knocked out Andrade and Miranda, and manhandled outmatched opponents like Magee and Zuniga like he was supposed to. Just disregard these wins because he just lost a fight, call him hypejob, bum, never was any good just because of a loss. Then turn around and say this was a great win for Froch.

Seriously, Carl Froch just beat an elite fighter in Lucian Bute, don't take credit away from the win by saying Bute is a hypejob. The truth is, to beat Johnson and Bika the way Bute did, you HAVE to be either a VERY good fighter or an elite fighter. At least Bute is one of those too. And Froch beat him.

IMO, Bute did not get exposed, he is not a hype job, and he is not a bum, Froch just had the style to steamroll through Bute. That's all. Ward vs Bute goes the distance, with Ward probably winning. Ward most likely dominates Froch again. Bute vs Kessler probably ends up being a close fight, Kessler vs Froch II would probably end up being a close fight, Bute probably beats Abraham, Bute probably beats Pavlik, Dirrell probably beats Bute, Kessler, and Froch. Styles make fights. When will all this "Blah Blah Blah got exposed, he's not good, I knew it" stop?
All your speculation means nothing. Bute lost and got dominated. On a parallel universe you may wake up and be relevant?
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Old 05-27-2012, 01:36 AM
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this doesn't prove anything, ward has to fight the fights to get credit... no fights no credit
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Old 05-27-2012, 04:37 AM
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This win makes Ward's win over Froch even more valid and even though there is now no need or demand for a Ward/ Bute fight-this is Froch's victory...no need to take that away or turn it into a greater win for Ward...
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Old 05-27-2012, 04:43 AM
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I didn't need anymore proof, Ward is that bit special.

I'm not going to join in with the 'Bute is a bum' thing either. He lost to a top level fighter, it happens. Give the man a chance to redeem himself.
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