If RJJ retired AFTER fighting Ruiz, would he have gone down as a TOP 5 ATG?

Always

Im having a discussion with someone, and would like to know yalls opinion.

RockyB

Probably top 10.. hard to say

Russian Crushin

Ummm no cuz you dont go down in ATG-ness

bojangles1987

I hate the question, because it suggests that Roy's previous accomplishments are wiped out somehow because he has plummeted since he began losing, but if he had more people would be saying he belonged there. He wouldn't, of course, but more people would say so.

D4thincarnation

No he wouldn't have made the top 5 or top 10

JAB5239

No, he just doesn't have the resume to be considered for the top 10. Head to head I'd put him in there, but that simply isn't provable.

hugh grant

He was a great fighter at his peak and there was talk about him possibly being the GOAT in magazines i read at the time. They were even dis cussing him and Lennox with lennox being too much for him.

Boxings all about opinions and people get sensitive at times.

IronDanHamza

I know if he retired after the Ruiz fight he'd be incredibly overrated at this point.

But, sadly, how his career has gone after that has made him become underrated.

hugh grant

Theres a saying you judge a fighter at the end of their careers when they are retired, but the thing is if you contine to fight past your best you will of course lose, so you cant be judged when your past your peak really can you?
You go by your prime and RJJ beat Toney and BH and heavyweight title. Its good stuff.
Maybe he could have beat Benn, and Eubank.

Alx.

top 10, right now he's top 15

View Poll Results: Would RJJ have been a Top 5 ATG?
Yes, Top 5	15	34.88%
No, Top 10	16	37.21%
No, and no where even close	12	27.91%
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RockyB Undisputed Champion Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Norway Age: 20 Posts: 1,537 Rep Power: 7 Points: 143,248.47 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 143,248.47 Donate	Probably top 10.. hard to say

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hugh grant Undisputed Champion Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The British Empire Posts: 10,344 Rep Power: 34 Points: 1,038,308,966.52 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 1,038,308,966.52 Donate	He was a great fighter at his peak and there was talk about him possibly being the GOAT in magazines i read at the time. They were even dis cussing him and Lennox with lennox being too much for him. Boxings all about opinions and people get sensitive at times.

IronDanHamza All Time Great Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 17,616 Rep Power: 47 Points: 262,340,914.81 Bank: 1,623,583,931,585.45 Total Points: 1,623,846,272,500.26 Donate	I know if he retired after the Ruiz fight he'd be incredibly overrated at this point. But, sadly, how his career has gone after that has made him become underrated.

Alx. U mirin? Join Date: May 2011 Location: Bucharest Posts: 4,154 Rep Power: 14 Points: 5,200,232,299.58 Bank: 605,503,789,761.03 Total Points: 610,704,022,060.60 Donate	top 10, right now he's top 15