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Old 05-20-2012, 11:13 PM
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Just doesn't make sense to me.

Sure he won titles in 2 divisions but outside of Pavlik and Williams there are no marquee names on his resume and both of those guys got 'exposed' if you will in other fights too.

Ward's dominance of Kessler ranks way above any of Martinez's wins, then you have to add the other champions Ward has beat like Froch and Abraham.

Neither of them have great resumes especially since Ward only just made it big but Ward is clearly the superior fighter with the best win of the two.
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Old 05-20-2012, 11:18 PM
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More than likely because of the way he wins
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Old 05-20-2012, 11:18 PM
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I was gonna make this same thread.

Personally I think Ward belongs at the top of the P4P list
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Old 05-20-2012, 11:22 PM
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Just doesn't make sense to me.

Sure he won titles in 2 divisions but outside of Pavlik and Williams there are no marquee names on his resume and both of those guys got 'exposed' if you will in other fights too.

Ward's dominance of Kessler ranks way above any of Martinez's wins, then you have to add the other champions Ward has beat like Froch and Abraham.

Neither of them have great resumes especially since Ward only just made it big but Ward is clearly the superior fighter with the best win of the two.
It's because he gets some flashy KO's and his high risk style of fighting with his hands down. Ward is a great fighter, better than Martinez, but he is fairly boring and his style isn't fan pleasing.
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Old 05-20-2012, 11:24 PM
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I agree. Martinez is too high IMO, and Ward deserves to be higher than him.

He's only ranked so high because of how impressively he beat Williams.

And while that was a very good win, it doesnt merit such a high placement in the P4P.
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Old 05-21-2012, 12:20 AM
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because he's the better fighter
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Old 05-21-2012, 12:25 AM
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I agree. Martinez is too high IMO, and Ward deserves to be higher than him.

He's only ranked so high because of how impressively he beat Williams.

And while that was a very good win, it doesnt merit such a high placement in the P4P.
Man, williams had never been laid out like that, iron chin with tons of heart, you make it sound as if he just went the distance with PW.

But i do like to watch Ward, i like his style believe it or not, the only one that can pull that style off and keep me entertained.
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Old 05-21-2012, 12:32 AM
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Man, williams had never been laid out like that, iron chin with tons of heart, you make it sound as if he just went the distance with PW.

But i do like to watch Ward, i like his style believe it or not, the only one that can pull that style off and keep me entertained.
Yeah, my bad.

It was a GREAT win actually.
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Old 05-21-2012, 12:46 AM
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i agree.. altho i think his win over pwill is better than anything ward has done, ward just beat a lot more good fighters...
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Old 05-21-2012, 12:47 AM
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he shouldn't be especially after the year Ward had and is currently the reigning Fighter Of The Year, not really sure if Martinez or Donaire should be higher then him, their last few fights have been against Average fighters while Ward just spent the last few years taking on the very BEST in his division
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