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Old 05-14-2012, 07:42 AM
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There are people who don't give respect & give gratitude to SENIOR CITIZENS.

Bob Arum was indeed the Promoter who give Pacman the Golden opportunity to shine in Boxing;Without him the Dela Hoya vs Mayweather Jr fight won't ever happen.

It's only natural to wage HATE Campaign against Arum the Promoter, because of Envy as well as, Insecurity.
LOL Arum was against the Floyd/Oscar fight happening, that's why Floyd left him. And Floyd marketed himself most of his career with his trash talk and brash persona, Arum doesn't know how to appeal to the african american market.
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Old 05-14-2012, 07:54 AM
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Mayweather wasn't a draw until he left Arum in the dust.

Had he stayed with Arum, Floyd would not be anywhere near the star that he is. Only by leaving Arum and doing his own thing did Mayweather become the biggest draw in the sport.
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Old 05-14-2012, 07:56 AM
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Top Rank made DLH a star, Pacquiao and Floyd became stars when they beat DLH.
This is the correct answer.
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Old 05-14-2012, 08:07 AM
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Delahoya was a star before he even turned pro. Arum helped all three by getting them fights of course, but to become a star, you have to capture the imagination of the masses.

Floyd is a brilliant self promoter and one of the most naturally gifted fighters the sport has ever seen. He can play the villain very well. In fact he can play any role he wants, he is quite complex. Manny is a fireball in the ring, exciting and has an incredible story behind him. The masses eat that stuff up also.

With all my rambling above, what I am basically saying is that Arum paved the way for them, but to become "STARS", they had to do that themselves.
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Old 05-14-2012, 08:11 AM
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I remember Arum had De La Hoya and promos for his fights on massive billboards in Times Square and got Oscar appearances on shows such as Letterman. Guy knows how to promote a superstar. What he's done with Pac in a few short years, now that Pac has more PPV sales than Oscar had at the same age is simply incredible.

However he could never promote Floyd to his maximum potential, as he was able to do DLH and Pacquiao. Then again Floyd was playing up alot outside the ring, always conflicting with Arum and never fit the good guy image that DLH and Pac easily did.

I wouldn't totally blame Arum for that, they just were not a good fit. For Mayweather to become so massive he had to beat DLH and come up with such an awful arrogant and trash-talking persona, total antithesis to the type Arum was used to, which the then new 24/7 concept helped push out to the world.
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Old 05-14-2012, 08:21 AM
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Old 05-14-2012, 08:26 AM
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There's a lot of hate on Arum.

But I've been thinking, that Mayweather and Dela Hoya should be thanking this guy for making them stars. I don't think there's another promoter that have the kind of abilities and resources to take someone like these two and Pacquiao and make them the big stars that they are now.

If Mayweather and Dela Hoya were with Gary Shaw or DiBella, do you think they would have made it this big? The same for Pacquiao, he was under Gary Shaw and Murad, but he didn't make it big until he was with Arum.

What's your take on this?
Top rank brilliantly built floyd and ODH. They were both olympic stars. ODH was a star since the olympic gold with the story about his mom dying and winning the gold for her. Floyd had the robbery of the gold. TR deserves credit for building them.

Floyd became a star when he left TR.

Manny was a huge name when he was with Murad Muhammad. But TR took him to the next level.

SO TR deserves credit for all 3.
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Old 05-14-2012, 10:03 AM
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Pacman is the 2nd biggest draw in the sport & arum robs him blind. Cotto just had a career payday that is after he left bob. The minute Pacman leaves bob, he'll get the same. Pacman fights bob pockets the lion share.
You see I'm not asking about Arum robbing them. The question is, would these three have become as big as they are if Arum did not get involved with their careers? Hypothetically, if Arum and Top Rank did not exist. If it was someone like Shaw or DiBella promoting them. The question is, would they have become as big as they did? What I'm trying to ask is, was there any other promoter that was capable of doing something like that?
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Old 05-14-2012, 10:33 AM
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[QUOTE=lacson;12124450]Again it was Arum that got them those fights.

Their promotion is also always a big time event. If it was Shaw or DiBella they would have had those fights in some indian casino in some small time place somewhere. I don't think they're capable of the same kind of promotions.[/QUO

Arum did not get Floyd the Oscar fight...
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Old 05-14-2012, 10:37 AM
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Arima helped but their talent is the real reason. It's more of these guys talent made Arum a lot of money.
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