Comments Thread For: CompuBox Plus/Minus Ratings: Mayweather, Canelo Up

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Floyd Mayweather Jr. lands just 26% vs. Miguel Cotto, slips to a +25, but still tops the list. Saul "Canelo" Alvarez lands 52% vs. Shane Mosley, moves to #2 with a +18 rating. The CompuBox average is 32% based on numbers in CompuBox's 4800-plus fights in database as of 5/11/12. Plus/minus ratings are determined by subtracting opponent’s connect pct. from listed fighter’s overall connect pct., which includes jab connect pct. & power punch connect pct.

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Carpe Diem

Blake Griffin is taking over.

Rapid Counter

I believe my own eyes over compubox any day. Compubox sucks

amayseng

although i had floyd beating cotto last weekend compubox had given floyd

round 6 with 9 punches landed to cottos 8

I REWATCHED THE ROUND 25 TIMES AND COUNTED 19 punches landed for cotto

you can not rely on compubox

AP♠

Compubox is the new marketing tool to help cover up risks and robberies.

Main Source

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Originally Posted by amayseng

although i had floyd beating cotto last weekend compubox had given floyd

round 6 with 9 punches landed to cottos 8

I REWATCHED THE ROUND 25 TIMES AND COUNTED 19 punches landed for cotto

you can not rely on compubox

Then you've wasted your time 24 times.

Either you don't know what to look for or you're blind. Compubox is mostly correct and their error margin is close to 1-10% not 50-100% as some of you claim.

I too counted 8 punches landed by Cotto. Maybe 9-10 but I need more angles to determine that. 19 punches landed is so ****ing absurd that I laughed at your post. You can't be serious.

sunny31

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Originally Posted by Main Source

Then you've wasted your time 24 times.

Either you don't know what to look for or you're blind. Compubox is mostly correct and their error margin is close to 1-10% not 50-100% as some of you claim.

I too counted 8 punches landed by Cotto. Maybe 9-10 but I need more angles to determine that. 19 punches landed is so ****ing absurd that I laughed at your post. You can't be serious.

How can you determine an error margin, when it is down to human error. That is the most absurd thing I have ever heard.

There have been many cases in the past where compubox has been proved wildly inaccurate. At the end of the day I do not expect a person to be able to determine whether a punch has landed in real time any better than you and me, it is extremely difficult. Someone has posted a video on the Internet of round 3 in this fight, and slowed down the action so you can clearly see the punches land or not, and it is clear Cotto has outlanded Mayweather in this round. I am not saying the right man didn't win, clearly floyd outlanded Cotto, and won the fight. But you have to take the numbers with a pinch of salt, and quite frankly I think it is silly how much emphasis HBO put on the numbers.

I prefer Showtime.

amayseng

Quote:

Originally Posted by Main Source

Then you've wasted your time 24 times.

Either you don't know what to look for or you're blind. Compubox is mostly correct and their error margin is close to 1-10% not 50-100% as some of you claim.

I too counted 8 punches landed by Cotto. Maybe 9-10 but I need more angles to determine that. 19 punches landed is so ****ing absurd that I laughed at your post. You can't be serious.

probably not as hard as i laughed at your james toney 43 and fat pic by your name...

a landed punch does not have to be 100% clean ..

it can be 50% deflected and effective as a counted punch...

rewatch round six and rewind numerous times where cotto lands those shots to the body.....

i dont have the time to give you the time on each landed punch...

Steak

Compubox is entirely wrong, but still a fun concept.

The problem is, along with 'human error', is that they dont have a real criteria on what constitutes a landed punch. ie A number of punches actually do end up grazing Mayweather's head, but theyre definitely not solid connects and not counted. Also punches in a clinch dont seem to be counted.

Dont judge a fight based on number of punches landed. Judge rounds based on who does the most damage.

Mr. Invincible

Prime Roy Jones has the best + - all time so it's all good. That said, there's a ton of fighters that are not on that list that should be.

Vitali Klitschko is one of them. He has a great + - in his last 9.

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amayseng Undisputed Champion Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: east coast Age: 34 Posts: 2,153 Rep Power: 14 Points: 140,069.41 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 140,069.41 Donate	although i had floyd beating cotto last weekend compubox had given floyd round 6 with 9 punches landed to cottos 8 I REWATCHED THE ROUND 25 TIMES AND COUNTED 19 punches landed for cotto you can not rely on compubox

AP♠ JAB OPERATOR Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: 54/10,12-4,2011,89-82 Posts: 2,828 Rep Power: 12 Points: 1,000,021,643.42 Bank: 30,846,522,579.22 Total Points: 31,846,544,222.64 Donate	Compubox is the new marketing tool to help cover up risks and robberies.

Mr. Invincible Banned Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: US of A Posts: 2,952 Rep Power: 0 Points: 347,748,921.24 Bank: 1,116,282,334.28 Total Points: 1,464,031,255.52 Donate	Prime Roy Jones has the best + - all time so it's all good. That said, there's a ton of fighters that are not on that list that should be. Vitali Klitschko is one of them. He has a great + - in his last 9.