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Old 05-10-2012, 09:59 AM
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This is the WBC we are talking about. Canelo didn't have to fight his way into the title and neither did Chavez Jr.

Look how they have had Martinez jumping through hoops to get a shot against Jr. and now its Vanes and Kirkland having to fight all the top guys to get a shot while Canelo is taking low risk fights.

Vanes should had fought top guys to make a case for himself but simply defending his ranking and his zero is not enough.
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Old 05-10-2012, 10:06 AM
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Old 05-10-2012, 10:15 AM
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I heard an interview with Vanes...... Vanes thought that if it's not in writing and they don't live up to their word by giving him the fight, if he beats Lara no one else is gonna wanna fight him because he would be considered too dangerous, high risk low reward type fighter.

So we can blame WBC....
Speak for yourself.

How's the Ouma rematch coming along?
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Old 05-10-2012, 10:32 AM
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Speak for yourself.

How's the Ouma rematch coming along?
listen to the interview, it also got K9 Bundrage interviewing Vanes and he confirms a lot of what Vanes is saying.. and they talk about Don King and how corrupt he is too.. I dunno about Ouma.. does that rematch even matter anymore?
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Old 05-10-2012, 10:42 AM
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I heard an interview with Vanes and he clarified the whole situation with the WBC. He wanted to fight Lara but the WBC refused to put in writing that the fight would be a Final Eliminator for the Alvarez shot and Vanes thought that if it's not in writing and they don't live up to their word by giving him the fight, if he beats Lara no one else is gonna wanna fight him because he would be considered too dangerous, high risk low reward type fighter.

So we can blame WBC for not officially putting it in writing, all they had to do was make it official that this fight was an eliminator. Vanes said that his fight with Roman was supposed to be the Eliminator but when he later checked Boxrec it said semi final eliminator, instead of just eliminator and he realised he got played by the WBC. For the Lara fight he didn't want it to happen again so he needed it in writing from WBC but they refused.
these are legitamit reasons of vanes. you cck sckers that twist the facts and bash him need to stay at estsde boxing with the other children. DICKWADS!
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Old 05-10-2012, 02:57 PM
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This is the WBC we are talking about. Canelo didn't have to fight his way into the title and neither did Chavez Jr.

Look how they have had Martinez jumping through hoops to get a shot against Jr. and now its Vanes and Kirkland having to fight all the top guys to get a shot while Canelo is taking low risk fights.

Vanes should had fought top guys to make a case for himself but simply defending his ranking and his zero is not enough.
WBC are notorious for this type of thing, from the interview it sounded like Vanes had about enough of them and their antics, he's handing the belt back to Sulaiman and I assume he won't pay their fees anymore. Why should boxers put up with them, they've made the belts almost meaningless..
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Old 05-10-2012, 03:02 PM
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listen to the interview, it also got K9 Bundrage interviewing Vanes and he confirms a lot of what Vanes is saying.. and they talk about Don King and how corrupt he is too.. I dunno about Ouma.. does that rematch even matter anymore?
Why listen? The only reason anyone knows him is because he talks. Stop worrying about titles and just fight the best there is, the titles will come. At the time the Angulo fight was offered, he balked. Kirkland picked up the fight and did work. Martirosyan just lost without stepping in the ring. Here was another opportunity to fight stellar opposition in Lara. He's balked once again.

Say he took the Angulo fight and won then took the Lara fight and was victorious, that's a great look for him and boxing as a whole because now we're not talking about who has Vanes fought or how's that Ouma rematch coming along? It's simple, fight and beat who everyone is talking about.... go get Kirkland, Lara, Cotto, etc... Go get Angulo
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Old 05-10-2012, 03:04 PM
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This is the WBC we are talking about. Canelo didn't have to fight his way into the title and neither did Chavez Jr.

Look how they have had Martinez jumping through hoops to get a shot against Jr. and now its Vanes and Kirkland having to fight all the top guys to get a shot while Canelo is taking low risk fights.

Vanes should had fought top guys to make a case for himself but simply defending his ranking and his zero is not enough.
Need to take martirosyan out of there... dude hasn't been fighting any top competition, by far.
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Old 05-10-2012, 03:16 PM
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Old 05-10-2012, 03:21 PM
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So, instead of getting exposure and possibly beating a top fighter, Vanes is going to sit on the sideline and do nothing? What sense does that make? Even if beating Lara didn't lead to Alvarez right away, it would be awesome exposure and lead to some big fights. If Vanes doesn't take this fight, what is he planning on doing that would actually help his career? It's stupid to put so much on one fight(alvarez)
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