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Old 05-08-2012, 05:26 PM
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Keep in mind, OST requires every active athlete in the sport to test randomly, while training for a fight or not. Not just leading up to the fight. This means if you are license and in waiting for say a fight to line up, you would still be randomly tested. Also the test would be banked and if there were any major inconsistencies that could help determine whether something happened or not. Like lets say your Hematocrit jumped or ****ed all the sudden from the norm or all the sudden you had a different MCV size then it would be obvious you did some kind of doping. Regarding MCV would be blood doping. There of course a tremendous amount of masking agents that are on the WADA list as well. Most doping is not done for muscle mass. usually its for a different edge as muscle mass in sport generally does not give an advantage. Recovery is the biggest problem in sport. Being able to go 12 rounds with out tiring for example. OST is done for ALL active athletes in the given sport. That means you could be training just to stay fit in the Himalayas and someone could come knocking for urine and blood (any hour of the day). The test generally are quick to perform. Its all the other bull**** (litigation) that takes so long. Chain of custody etc.. in alot of cases you must also have a registry notifying the agency if you will be going out of town, to where and how long.

This is not the case for all testing in sports but the ones that are doing the most to prevent doping are going about it this way. I side with Floyd in that I think many are doing it. I don't think pac man is doin it any more but I believe he has. Certain characteristics are very common with certain drugs and if it quacks like a duck, then its probably a duck. In sports we want to believe they greats don't cheat but the second you believe them you are let down by the truth. Look at BALCO. These guys are on the razors edge of athletes, tuned to a leevl we could never imagine for a very small window. Every little advantage they will take. Especially when the rewards are so large. Look at marquez drinking his own piss thinking it was an advantage. I'm sure some would eat their own **** too if they thought it would help.
They don't even test every fighter in the sport now. You think Andrew Hartley's of boxing ever get called up for a test?
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Old 05-08-2012, 05:26 PM
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I dont think thats right. Could be wrong but i dont think so.

Anyway VADA or USADA is far superior to Commsion testing in any state. Only a fool would think otherwise
Double negatives hurt the brain, man.

I agree. Random urine testing is a far superior testing method as evidenced by this discovery.
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Old 05-08-2012, 05:28 PM
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I believe it was VADA who caught him, but since he was dirty anyway...he would have gotten caught by whoever tested him first because it was the urine sample that was dirty. Remember that back in July 2011, the NSAC started random out-of-competition testing of urine so there is a chance they would have gotten to him as well at some point...but who knows.

Until the commission implements blood testing as part of that same year-round procedure then it will be inadequate and outside agencies will be needed.
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Old 05-08-2012, 05:30 PM
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What happen to the posters that advocated cut-offs?

What happen to the posters that use to scream "Let the commission do their job"?
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Old 05-08-2012, 05:32 PM
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What happen to the posters that advocated cut-offs?

What happen to the posters that use to scream "Let the commission do their job"?
They died off after Pacquiao finally agreed to random blood testing.
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Old 05-08-2012, 05:45 PM
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SO Lamont Peterson got caught with the routine drug testing conducted by Nevada State Athletic Commissions

NOT

Olympic style testing or random drug testing

SOOO

my point is OST by the agencies that Mayweather prefers
is not necessary!!
Wow, really? I really regret helping you out with a stream.

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I dont think thats right. Could be wrong but i dont think so.

Anyway VADA or USADA is far superior to Commsion testing in any state. Only a fool would think otherwise
VADA was founded by Dr Margarette Goodman who use to work with Nevada State Athletic Commission. However, she has been very out spoken on how out of date Nevada State Athletic Commission.

As evident with Nevada using a 6:1 T/E Ratio, while other state commissions like California, or VADA have adopted the WADA 4:1 T/E ratio.
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Old 05-08-2012, 05:47 PM
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Too bad for Lamont, he should have been scared of needles.
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Old 05-08-2012, 06:02 PM
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What happen to the posters that advocated cut-offs?

What happen to the posters that use to scream "Let the commission do their job"?
They are the same posters who are trying to spin it like VADA are NSAC, they have been out all day trying to tell us that Peterson was caught by the same ordinary test that NSAC administered.....Just to prove that what i dont know!
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Old 05-08-2012, 06:24 PM
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Wow, really? I really regret helping you out with a stream.



VADA was founded by Dr Margarette Goodman who use to work with Nevada State Athletic Commission. However, she has been very out spoken on how out of date Nevada State Athletic Commission.

As evident with Nevada using a 6:1 T/E Ratio, while other state commissions like California, or VADA have adopted the WADA 4:1 T/E ratio.
you're not the only person with streams..

plus your links were straight trash juice
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Old 05-08-2012, 06:30 PM
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you're not the only person with streams..

plus your links were straight trash juice
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