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Old 04-30-2012, 10:57 PM
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He should have done that to Pacman and Margarito...

Shane walked Cotto down....but was then walked down by Mayweather.

Floyd is stronger than Cotto.

You'll see who the rag doll is come saturday...

Shane didn't walk anybody down. Cotto got tired at the end and started running around.

Cotto does have a size and power advantage over Mayweather but he will lose.
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Old 04-30-2012, 10:59 PM
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These cheerleaders have no answer to Manny's ducking of the Cotto that Floyd is fighting because they know its a clear duck and its eating them up.

The cheerleaders like to invade from the true question, by saying that Manny destroyed Cotto already and that there need no rematch. Ofcourse thats not the point and they know it.

Their having a hard time processing the question is to why did Manny approach Cotto as his first option only to then decline it because of a CW? If weight is not an issue then why does Manny need another CW? That's the question "why does Manny need another CW with Cotto?" not "why does Manny need to fight Cotto?"

But you will not get an answer because they will continue to divert to Manny already beat Cotto
ok, can talk to you, tired of old man Rod
obviously, Pac-Cotto 2 was a money fight, nothing more
there was no reason other than to milk easy money off Cotto
choosing him was utterly pointless, at any weight
Pac's team knew that, and the backlash woulda been huge
it wasn't a duck, it was a good move
we have Pac-Bradley, a good fight
that as opposed to Pac-Cotto 2, a pointless shit fight
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Old 04-30-2012, 11:00 PM
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to be fair Pacs stupidity or intelligence got us the Bradley Fight which will be a good fight, Pac just made his biggest payday against JMM but thats not an option for him because he cant LEGITIMATLEy beat JMM ,its more damaging to his career than profitable to fight JMM period,so he chose Cotto which wouldve been the most absurd unwarranted,unwanted rematch fight ever!but when that didnt pan out Manroid was forced to fight someone actually good, Manny in his mind thought he was going to steamroll JMM thats why he took that fight, proof of his mindset is picking cotto a 2nd time, hes stuck with Bradley because he ran out of cherry picks with a name......
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Old 04-30-2012, 11:01 PM
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These cheerleaders have no answer to Manny's ducking of the Cotto that Floyd is fighting because they know its a clear duck and its eating them up.

The cheerleaders like to invade from the true question, by saying that Manny destroyed Cotto already and that there need no rematch. Ofcourse thats not the point and they know it.

Their having a hard time processing the question is to why did Manny approach Cotto as his first option only to then decline it because of a CW? If weight is not an issue then why does Manny need another CW? That's the question "why does Manny need another CW with Cotto?" not "why does Manny need to fight Cotto?"

But you will not get an answer because they will continue to divert to Manny already beat Cotto
Yep if it was a court case they lose badly , Its obvious weight is critical to Pac beating Cotto , he is still the same man as you murdered before and you want the rematch , yet refuse it because of weight , come on ! is what it is !
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Old 04-30-2012, 11:03 PM
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Thats not the reason Fraudy pacyow refused Cotto ata cw, the reason he did is because hed further expose himself as a chery picking fraud, since he turned down Martinez at every which wt and turn possible, he coudnt bring himself to say publicly this guy at 154lbs but not that guy, not that we dont know already but it was a matter of pac painting himself into a corner due to his protected cherry picking ways...
I don't buy that cause they did it point blank with Mosley and his cheerleaders continued to support him.

Mosley: Why can't you fight me at 147 if you fought Oscar at 147?

Roach: Your not Oscar, your too good!!

Manny has a blind following so he don't need to worry about any PR moves since he has his sheep in line. I mean look at how Top Rank fights have been robbing fights yet Top Rank has still massive support.
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Old 04-30-2012, 11:07 PM
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ok, can talk to you, tired of old man Rod
obviously, Pac-Cotto 2 was a money fight, nothing more
there was no reason other than to milk easy money off Cotto
choosing him was utterly pointless, at any weight
Pac's team knew that, and the backlash woulda been huge
it wasn't a duck, it was a good move
we have Pac-Bradley, a good fight
that as opposed to Pac-Cotto 2, a pointless shit fight
Might be believable in Pacland , but in the real world people would say why did he wait until Cotto said Yes but No CW to realize that this was just a money fight and he didnt really want it anyway , people are not that gullible .

If it was Paclands version then they would have withdrawn the offer before waiting on Cotto answer .

Its obvious the only reason Pac did not fight Cotto was the CW .
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Old 04-30-2012, 11:08 PM
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ok, can talk to you, tired of old man rod
obviously, pac-cotto 2 was a money fight, nothing more
there was no reason other than to milk easy money off cotto
choosing him was utterly pointless, at any weight
pac's team knew that, and the backlash woulda been huge
it wasn't a duck, it was a good move
we have pac-bradley, a good fight
that as opposed to pac-cotto 2, a pointless shit fight
fight did not happen because of the cw and not because of any so called backlash! If cotto had a agreed to a catch weight, manny and arum would have been licking their chops, gtfo cheerleader. You think arum cares what the people think? Have you forget about the recent judging of the fights. Arum has no shame. Arum is only loyal to the dolla!!!
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Old 04-30-2012, 11:10 PM
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Cotto has almost zero chance of winning this fight. the entire card is garbage, it's just mismatches.

I'm not hating Cotto but honestly what has he done since at 154?

he beat a one legged Yuri Foreman, he beat Mayorga (who quit after getting hit in the hand) and he beat Margarito who wasn't even cleared to fight until Arum greased the right hands to allow it.

this fight made sense 5 years ago at 140 when Cotto was a beast but he isn't that anymore. I don't blame Ricans for still seeing the old Cotto but he aint that anymore.

it's an easy pay day for Mayweather.

personally I'm not supporting anymore of these sort of money grab fight where they're just playing on blind ethic loyalties. ya just gettin hustled.
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Old 04-30-2012, 11:14 PM
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fight did not happen because of the cw and not because of any so called backlash! If cotto had a agreed to a catch weight, manny and arum would have been licking their chops, gtfo cheerleader. You think arum cares what the people think? Have you forget about the recent judging of the fights. Arum has no shame. Arum is only loyal to the dolla!!!
that was the point, Arum doesn't care
they only considered it out of greed
a pointless 2nd Cotto fight with a catchweight was laughable
they damn well knew it
Cotto wasn't gonna do it, and that was that
nobody wanted to see that fight anyway
Pac didn't duck Cotto, he dropped a pointless rematch nobody wanted
there was no demand for Pac-Cotto 2, Pac already destroyed the guy
nothing was gonna change in a rematch
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Old 04-30-2012, 11:17 PM
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Cotto vs Canelo would have made so much more since. Cotto is still good but he's not even an Mayweather's class at this point. who knows if Canelo is the real deal or just a hype job.

it's a great pick em fight plus it's Mexico vs PR, but no GBP went with Mosley. how many times does have to look terrible before the public realize he's shot.

as for Mayweather I only want to see him fight Pacquiao at 147 or Martinez at 154. if he's only going to fight once a year and for 70$ a PPV it better be against the best.

I'd like promoters to cater to the fans but as long as people blindly eat the sht they shovel they'll never change and the actual fans of the sport (not certain fighters) will just have to put up with it.
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