Arum gets BURIED by Teddy Atlas on ESPN *VIDEO*

[ADP02]

Originally Posted by Big Dunn

Yes I do remember that. Manny wouldn't agree to that until a frustrated floyd told Larry Merchant "0 days". Manny didn't compromise, he flat out refused. He didn't say OK to testing until 6 months later.

If you are an honest poster, then you will point out Manny 1st brought up purse split during the interview where he said, "there are no more issues with testing". So the real question is why did manny do that?

No one is protecting that. If anything most people want floyd to give the 50/50 split back.

Manny didn't agree to what Floyd wanted and Floyd didn't agree to what Manny wanted but Manny compromised by saying that he will do testing prior to the fight.

Still at the end of the day, Manny went all the way and accepted 100% what Floyd wanted. Floyd didn't budge!

There are plenty who are protecting Floyd now .... but if you are not then what is the argument here?


I don't get your question about "So the real question is why did manny do that?"

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Man, Big Dunn laying the ether down on these fools .

[Big Dunn]

Originally Posted by ADP02

Manny didn't agree to what Floyd wanted and Floyd didn't agree to what Manny wanted but Manny compromised by saying that he will do testing prior to the fight.

Still at the end of the day, Manny went all the way and accepted 100% what Floyd wanted. Floyd didn't budge!

There are plenty who are protecting Floyd now .... but if you are not then what is the argument here?


I don't get your question about "So the real question is why did manny do that?"

Manny brought up purse split as the remaining issue in that video, not floyd. Why did Manny do that? I found that odd.

Your 1st paragrph distorts the truth. Floyd, at that point, had agreed to everything manny wanted.

The point is lets not change the facts. Both fighters are responsible for their actions in regards to this fight not happening.

Floyd could make the dec 09 offer you say is fair again to make this fight. I see no reason why he should bear sole responsibility when Manny and his teams actions have been more of an impediment to this fight.

[DeadLikeMe]

1.) Mayweather will no longer take 50/50
2.) May-Cotto is going to outsell Pac-Bradley
3.) Floyd is going to use that as a talking point against 50/50.

This.fight.wont.happen.

[Big Dunn]

Originally Posted by DeadLikeMe

1.) Mayweather will no longer take 50/50
2.) May-Cotto is going to outsell Pac-Bradley
3.) Floyd is going to use that as a talking point against 50/50.

This.fight.wont.happen.

Dude, it'll happen 6 mos after Manny buys out his TR contract, if he has the resources to do so.

[lfc19titles]

Originally Posted by Big Dunn

Manny brought up purse split as the remaining issue in that video, not floyd. Why did Manny do that? I found that odd.

Your 1st paragrph distorts the truth. Floyd, at that point, had agreed to everything manny wanted.

The point is lets not change the facts. Both fighters are responsible for their actions in regards to this fight not happening.

Floyd could make the dec 09 offer you say is fair again to make this fight. I see no reason why he should bear sole responsibility when Manny and his teams actions have been more of an impediment to this fight.

Both teams are responsible but everyone can see floyd would most likely win, pac generates ppvs 1m+, it is ENTIRELY FAIR, to have it 50-50, manny has infact outsold floyd in recent ppvs as well, Manny was holding up the fight with no testing but now it is Floyd and Arum holding it up. Floyd for his stupid advisors not telling him to take 50-50 and Arum not wanting to put Manny in with him

BTW your sig can be flipped over to if floyd really wants it

also floyd was not a huge star like manny is when he gave into those two demands, OScar was massive compared to floyd while manny and floyd are equals

[ADP02]

Originally Posted by Big Dunn

Manny brought up purse split as the remaining issue in that video, not floyd. Why did Manny do that? I found that odd.

Your 1st paragrph distorts the truth. Floyd, at that point, had agreed to everything manny wanted.

The point is lets not change the facts. Both fighters are responsible for their actions in regards to this fight not happening.

Floyd could make the dec 09 offer you say is fair again to make this fight. I see no reason why he should bear sole responsibility when Manny and his teams actions have been more of an impediment to this fight.

If Floyd agreed to everything Manny wanted then why don't we have a fight? Manny didn't want testing .... Floyd didn't agree to that. Manny wanted a certain cutoff date, Floyd didn't agree to that. You are making it sound like what Floyd wants is the golden rule.

See your underlined words above. You are blaming Manny "MORE" than Floyd .... but it should be the other way around.

BEFORE: Do you know how many Floyd fans said, "if Manny bluffed and agreed to testing and Floyd put out another roadblock then we will know that its Floyd that is ducking?"
Now those same people are saying "why did it take so long for Manny to agree?" or "Floyd should get more" or "$40 million is a lot of monny to say no to"

[Big Dunn]

Originally Posted by lfc19titles

Both teams are responsible but everyone can see floyd would most likely win, pac generates ppvs 1m+, it is ENTIRELY FAIR, to have it 50-50, manny has infact outsold floyd in recent ppvs as well, Manny was holding up the fight with no testing but now it is Floyd and Arum holding it up. Floyd for his stupid advisors not telling him to take 50-50 and Arum not wanting to put Manny in with him

BTW your sig can be flipped over to if floyd really wants it

also floyd was not a huge star like manny is when he gave into those two demands, OScar was massive compared to floyd while manny and floyd are equals

Bob being ok with 50/50 should be all the info you need to know his fighter is the smaller draw. Bob has never accepted a smaller or equal purse for his fighter if they are the larger draw, NEVER!!!!!!, because it cuts into his profit.

When you say 50/50 is fair, you say so in a vacum. 50/50 would be fair for Manny/Bradley right? NO. The only difference is manny is much closer to floyd than bradley is to manny. SO whether an evn split is "fair" according to you, what you really are saying is if 50/50 gets fight made, floyd should do it because manny wants it.

I don't agree with that argument.

Floyd was talking about ALi Berbick and Ali- Holmes. But I'm, sure you know this and are twisting it purposely.

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Arum and Floyd hate each other. That's the base of this fight not happening. Like others have said, Pac should leave Arum and promote himself like these other successful fighters are doing.

[Big Dunn]

Originally Posted by ADP02

If Floyd agreed to everything Manny wanted then why don't we have a fight? Manny didn't want testing .... Floyd didn't agree to that. Manny wanted a certain cutoff date, Floyd didn't agree to that. You are making it sound like what Floyd wants is the golden rule.

See your underlined words above. You are blaming Manny "MORE" than Floyd .... but it should be the other way around.

BEFORE: Do you know how many Floyd fans said, "if Manny bluffed and agreed to testing and Floyd put out another roadblock then we will know that its Floyd that is ducking?"
Now those same people are saying "why did it take so long for Manny to agree?" or "Floyd should get more" or "$40 million is a lot of monny to say no to"

Because manny wouldn't agree to random OST. The rest of your 1st paragraph makes little sense.

I am only holding manny accountable for his actions. I'd hope you'd do same. The only people who don't are the diehard pac fans.

As for your before and after, I haven't done that. If other floyd fans have well thats on them and you should ask them why.