Arum gets BURIED by Teddy Atlas on ESPN *VIDEO*

[billygoathurler]

jeez i hate teddy but in this case he is right. Funny thing is Manny has his own promotions company, but he uses it as a tax shell to claim deductions.

[ADP02]

Originally Posted by Big Dunn

So why did you change your opinion? What is different now then Dec 2009? Why aren't you still against manny taking OST?

Only Floyd fans can criticize the guy who compromises instead of the guy who keeps on moving the goal posts back

[JoeMan]

Originally Posted by Big Dunn

ACtually it takes seconds to say, Manny wouldn't make Bob Arum make the fight!

Yeah. That's exactly what I meant. Five years from now you'll look like a clown if you say fight didn't happen because Arum didn't want it to happen.

[Big Dunn]

Originally Posted by ADP02

Only Floyd fans can criticize the guy who compromises instead of the guy who keeps on moving the goal posts back

Huh? where is the criticism?

From 0 days, to 24 days, to 14 days. Thats a compromise. Manny still refused. How much compromising should floyd do? DOes manny have to do any?

The question was why did the poster change his opinion about signing the same deal now that he said manny should reject in 2009. I'm sure you changed as well. Care to answer?

[Big Dunn]

Originally Posted by JoeMan

Yeah. That's exactly what I meant. Five years from now you'll look like a clown if you say fight didn't happen because Arum didn't want it to happen.

Like I said you sound like the people who criticized Jose Canseco. The only people who appear as fools 5 years later are the ones that actually wanted to believe Mark McGwire, SOsa, Brady Anderson, and Clemens were not steroid users.

Be careful about history. The truth usually comes out. And popular opinion is always subject to change.

[JoeMan]

Originally Posted by Big Dunn

Be careful about history. The truth usually comes out. And popular opinion is always subject to change.

All you need to recall is Bob Costas' recent interview with Floyd. It's a non-biased interview, unlike Atlas's comments. Floyd will be peppered with those kinds of questions in years to come. People will never buy any excuse for not fighting. It's just human nature.

[Big Dunn]

Originally Posted by JoeMan

All you need to recall is Bob Costas' recent interview with Floyd. It's a non-biased interview, unlike Atlas's comments. Floyd will be peppered with those kinds of questions in years to come. People will never buy any excuse for not fighting. It's just human nature.

Right. Just like Canseco was peppered with questions. He was proven correct, despite the medias attempt to discredit him. Teddy ATlas comments, unbiased and honest, are the 1st step in this direction with floyd. Bob told floyd he couldn't get an ODH fight, floyd leaves TR, fights ODH. Cotto leaves TR, gets floyd fight in a month. Manny were to leave or make Bob make fight, bang it happens.

Truth always comes out in the end.

[ADP02]

Originally Posted by Big Dunn

Huh? where is the criticism?

From 0 days, to 24 days, to 14 days. Thats a compromise. Manny still refused. How much compromising should floyd do? DOes manny have to do any?

The question was why did the poster change his opinion about signing the same deal now that he said manny should reject in 2009. I'm sure you changed as well. Care to answer?

Refuse? As a fan of boxing, all I care is that they get it on!

As for Floyd, the dates kept on moving back and then disappearing once Manny decided to compromise. Plus, Floyd and his team kept on accusing that Manny did PEDs. That is not a way to approach an agreement to get the fight on.

Most people including many Manny fans hoped that Manny would go down to 14 days just so we got to see the fight .... but now that the tables are turned, I'm seeing many but not all Floyd fans still protecting Floyd on his "I want all PPV money".

The real question is why did it take this long for Floyd to all of a sudden bring up another roadblock and had left us all thinking for 3 years that this was all about OST? Remember, TAKE THE TEST AND WE HAVE A FIGHT!

[DeadLikeMe]

Anyone who can look back on the last 3-4 years of bull**** and only finds reason to blame one side or party involved is a moron. If you think it is all one side's fault you're an idiot and should be chemically castrated for the sake of society.

[Big Dunn]

Originally Posted by ADP02

Refuse? As a fan of boxing, all I care is that they get it on!

As for Floyd, the dates kept on moving back and then disappearing once Manny decided to compromise. Plus, Floyd and his team kept on accusing that Manny did PEDs. That is not a way to approach an agreement to get the fight on.

Most people including many Manny fans hoped that Manny would go down to 14 days just so we got to see the fight .... but now that the tables are turned, I'm seeing many but not all Floyd fans still protecting Floyd on his "I want all PPV money".

The real question is why did it take this long for Floyd to all of a sudden bring up another roadblock and had left us all thinking for 3 years that this was all about OST? Remember, TAKE THE TEST AND WE HAVE A FIGHT!

Yes I do remember that. Manny wouldn't agree to that until a frustrated floyd told Larry Merchant "0 days". Manny didn't compromise, he flat out refused. He didn't say OK to testing until 6 months later.

If you are an honest poster, then you will point out Manny 1st brought up purse split during the interview where he said, "there are no more issues with testing". So the real question is why did manny do that?

No one is protecting that. If anything most people want floyd to give the 50/50 split back.