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Old 04-29-2012, 02:57 PM
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Default Why is Steward losing fighters?

Most notably, one training camp apiece for Miguel Cotto and Chad Dawson. Does Emmanuel Steward have too much on his plate lately, or is his training style not as relevant with today's fighters? Is it a personality issue?

Just curious if anyone knows anything beyond the headlines on this one.
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Old 04-29-2012, 02:58 PM
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Funny that you should ask that question, I was talking to Emmanuel just the other day and I asked him the very same thing. His response?

"I knew this was gonna happen."
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Old 04-29-2012, 03:00 PM
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Manny has announced that he's going to retire as a trainer in about 48 months.
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Old 04-29-2012, 03:00 PM
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add gamboa to that list too.

seems like fighters team up with him and leave him pretty quick. something aint right for a guy to leave a hall of fame trainer. I'm guessing the old guy isn't around much besides for klitschko.
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Old 04-29-2012, 03:08 PM
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Funny that you should ask that question, I was talking to Emmanuel just the other day and I asked him the very same thing. His response?

"I knew this was gonna happen."


Grade A stuff.
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Old 04-29-2012, 03:09 PM
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I think Manny Steward is one of the most overrated trainers possibly in the history of the sport.

I'm not remotely surprised people don't stay with him long.
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Old 04-29-2012, 03:12 PM
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I think Manny Steward is one of the most overrated trainers possibly in the history of the sport.

I'm not remotely surprised people don't stay with him long.
what is your reasoning
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I think him being an old guy seems to have something to do with it. He seems to look slow at times, like he's lost and the fighters noticed thats why they went elsewhere for training. I have great respect for him but other then the klitchkos he hasn't really worked with anyone full time. Maybe andy lee???
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Old 04-29-2012, 03:13 PM
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what is your reasoning
I've just never considered his advice to be good between rounds or his fighters to improve during his stay with him.

Even the ones he's sucessful with he doesn't give the best advice.

But it's JMO.
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Old 04-29-2012, 03:19 PM
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I've just never considered his advice to be good between rounds or his fighters to improve during his stay with him.

Even the ones he's sucessful with he doesn't give the best advice.

But it's JMO.
but you gotta think that fighters leaving is more likely due to his training of them as opposed to what he says in between rounds during a fight. It's not like Gamboa and Cotto were getting destroyed just before switching trainers.
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