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View Poll Results: Floyd's Gambling: Do you think he wins more than he loses?
Yeah, I believe that Floyd wins more than he loses 12 36.36%
No, I don't believe Floyd wins more than he loses (in the long run) 21 63.64%
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u dont get it cause you dont know nothing about it. If you bet in a Klitschko fight on Klitschko the odds will be around 1.05 decimal for Klitschko to win. So if you bet 100 bucks you will win 5 bucks. But if you bet 10 times on Klitschko with those odds, one time Klitschko is gonna lose cause we have seen that in the past. So you win 9 times - everytime 5 bucks, so you win a total of 45 bucks, but the 10th time you also bet on Klitschko but he loses so you lose the 100 bucks you bet on Klitschko. So overall you won 45 bucks and you lost 100 bucks.
And now get the f**ck out of here and take that other retard with you cause Im sick of talking to little retarded kids on this site. You dont know jacksh_it about gambling and you wanna talk with me about stuff you dont even know nothing about. Get L O S T
Btw does it happen that once or twice the oddsmakers know less about 2 fighters than you? Yes. And maybe you win that bet. But in the long run the odds are terrible, terrible and more terrible. Thats the only way the casino makes money. And if you are too stupid to understand that and if you dont have experience with gambling, then just be quiet and stop annoying me.
Dear God. Stop talking about odds. Everyone that understands math on a third grade level, understands odds.

What's cute, is that you think the key to winning, is whether or not "the oddsmakers know more about 2 fighters than you".

When you bet, say, the NBA, what the oddsmakers do, or don't know about the players, doesn't mean a damn thing in regards to beating the point spread.

For instance, I couldn't tell you 10 players that play in the NHL. I have no idea what "icing" is. I have no idea what makes a player "offsides" in hockey. Or even if "offsides" exists in hockey. But I can still bet, profitably, on hockey.

I wouldn't expect you to understand this, though, because as you have proven, you have NO earthly idea what you're talking about.
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Old 04-28-2012, 04:18 PM
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as soon as I read that Donkey say "clearly you've never gambled" ... I didn't bother reading the rest of his post ... OF COURSE ... MOST people lose money, but I know people who win money, and I've gone on hot streaks and hit big ...
The guy is just spouting nonsense. I've seen a million "raskat's". He's been a loser for so long, that he's convinced himself that if he can't beat it, then surely no one can.

I mean, after all, he DOES understand odds.....
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Old 04-28-2012, 04:24 PM
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Dear God. Stop talking about odds. Everyone that understands math on a third grade level, understands odds.

What's cute, is that you think the key to winning, is whether or not "the oddsmakers know more about 2 fighters than you".

When you bet, say, the NBA, what the oddsmakers do, or don't know about the players, doesn't mean a damn thing in regards to beating the point spread.

For instance, I couldn't tell you 10 players that play in the NHL. I have no idea what "icing" is. I have no idea what makes a player "offsides" in hockey. Or even if "offsides" exists in hockey. But I can still bet, profitably, on hockey.

I wouldn't expect you to understand this, though, because as you have proven, you have NO earthly idea what you're talking about.
my last response for you: what you dont understand is this: when you bet on a soccer game, the oddsmaker make odds for all the bets. Lets say how many yellow cards will be in the 2nd half of the game. So what the oddsmakers do is they look up the last season and they do the math: they see that in all league games the average amount of yellow cards in the 2nd half was 3 yellow cards. So now they make the odds: So they say the odds for the bet "at least 3 yellow cards in the 2nd half of the game" are for example 1.2 decimal. They make the odds so sh_itty that you wont make money IN THE LONG RUN. and that is the important part of my last sentence: "in the long run". You might win a few of those bets, but you wont win enough in the winning bets compared to what you lose when you lose the bets.
That was my last response to you. I know you will never understand it cause you just dont have the knowledge to talk with me about that.
The oddsmakers know from the past, how likely a certain event is going to happen (it just works like that), and they make the odds bad enough that you will lose in the long run.
And I do have friends who are honest to me and they also didnt win in the long run. If you have friends who lie to you about that topic and say they win more money than they lose, you better get yourself new friends cause your old friends are full of sh_it

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Old 04-28-2012, 04:31 PM
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my last response for you: what you dont understand is this: when you bet on a soccer game, the oddsmaker make odds for all the bets. Lets say how many yellow cards will be in the 2nd half of the game. So what the oddsmakers do is they look up the last season and they do the math: they see that in all league games the average amount of yellow cards in the 2nd half was 3 yellow cards. So now they make the odds: So they say the odds for the bet "at least 3 yellow cards in the 2nd half of the game" are for example 1.2 decimal. They make the odds so sh_itty that you wont make money IN THE LONG RUN. and that is the important part of my last sentence: "in the long run". You might win a few of those bets, but you wont win enough in the winning bets compared to what you lose when you lose the bet.
That was my last response to you. I know you will never understand it cause you just dont have the knowledge to talk with me about that.
Jesus, you're just too dumb for words. "Yellow cards", this and that. Maybe "in the long run", you can't win money taking stupid bets, on soccer PROPS, where the odds are so heavy on one side, that it cripples you the one time you lose. But the odds aren't that skewed on EVERY BET, you silly son of a bitch.

On sports betting, in general, it can be done. It IS done, every single day. I haven't had a losing season in NHL, MLB, NCAAB, NCAAF, or Boxing, in quite some time. And I personally know guys that CRUSH the NFL every single year, and have done so for longer than you've been "gambling".

The real reason you won't respond anymore, is because you, just like everyone else reading this thread, know exactly where this conversation is heading.

....stick that in your long run, princess.

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Jesus, you're just too dumb for words. "Yellow cards", this and that. Maybe "in the long run", you can't win money taking stupid bets, on soccer PROPS, where the odds are so heavy on one side, that it cripples you the one time you lose. But the odds aren't that skewed on EVERY BET, you silly son of a bitch.

On sports betting, in general, it can be done. It IS done, every single day. I haven't had a losing season in NHL, MLB, NCAAB, NCAAF, or Boxing, in quite some time. And I personally know guys that CRUSH the NFL every single year, and have done so for longer than you've been "gambling".

The real reason you won't respond anymore, is because you, just like everyone else reading this thread, know exactly where this conversation is heading.

....stick that in your long run, princess.
you lying cvnt. Why arent you a millionaire already you stupid coksu_ker? get the f__uck out of here you stupid silly clown. Then go gamble all your money and bet all your money on the next bets if you know everything. stupid fu kc I cant believe I talked to a retard like yourself. go kill yourself
its very simple: if you are soooo clever then you must be a millionaire now, right? and your homo friends too, right? then why do you still live in your mommys basement like u told me yesterday you stupid little sh_it?

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you lying cvnt. Why arent you a millionaire already you stupid coksu_ker? get the f__uck out of here you stupid silly clown. Then go gamble all your money and bet all your money on the next bets if you know everything. stupid fu kc I cant believe I talked to a retard like yourself. go kill yourself
its very simple: if you are soooo clever then you must be a millionaire now, right? and your homo friends too, right? then why do you still live in your mommys basement like u told me yesterday you stupid little sh_it?
LOL. You mad? Don't be bitter because I win, and you lose.

And yet, you STILL don't get it (raise your hand if you're shocked by that....).

I didn't say I win EVERY bet. If I did, I'd be rich. I win more than I lose. I win enough to show a profit in the long run, dummy. You can't do it, and the fact that I can, just made you go full on retard.
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That was a fun read.

TS is an obvious retard, and possible troll. He couldve spared himself from getting slapped around by JohnM if he had just listened to me earlier in the thread.

JohnM, thanks for handling this kid. I couldnt deal with him anymore.
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Only he knows I suppose, but most people who gamble regularly lose more than they win. Only way for him to win a lot is for him to put down loads of cash on heavy favorites.
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I used to do it online with boxing but its hard and the odds were so **** it wasnt worth it. For someone you know for certain would win you have to bet so much to make anything that it isnt enough to cover for bad decisions and freak occurrences ect.


I stopped online cause I lost money overall. When I was in vegas there was PBF-JMM and Cotto-Pac up. Cotto had good odds, I thought Manny was overly favored but I thought he would win, so that wasnt a good bet for me because I thought Cotto had a good enough chance and Id have to put a lot on Pac. JMM-PBF odds were absymal, Id have to bet like 1000 to make 50 bucks or something stupid. What if floyd tripped and broke an ankle and couldnt continue and the ref ruled it a fall by a punch or something? good buy 1000 dollars. I would have picked PBF by KO before the 10th to make a little bit more and Im lucky I decided not to because I would have lost.
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