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Old 04-03-2012, 12:07 AM
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Do you think Molina lasts without clinching? How exactly? He showed he couldn't in rd 10.
Round 10?

Even before that, Kirkland was hurting him and he was literally holding on for dear life every 5 seconds.

I saw no "crafty boxing skills" whatsoever from Molina like what Jro mentioned. If it wasn't for the linebacker drag your opponent down tactic, Molina would've been done before the 10th. That's a fact.
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Old 04-03-2012, 12:09 AM
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Canelo beats the sh1t out of Kirkland.
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Old 04-03-2012, 12:10 AM
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Call it what you want. I don't know what fight you watched, but I'm just calling it like it is.

If Molina isn't allowed to clinch 118 times or if Kirk doesn't have torn muscles in his shoulders, it's game over for Molina.

Do you really think Molina can hang with Kirkland's pressure without holding him every 5 seconds?
No, you're not...You're calling it like a fan boy.

Which is cool, we all have that 1 guy that we back no matter what.

Molina and Kirkland are very close to each other in terms of class of fighter.
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Old 04-03-2012, 12:11 AM
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Canelo beats the sh1t out of Kirkland.
Lol @ Canelo beating "the shit out of" a prime legit JMW.
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Old 04-03-2012, 12:13 AM
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No, you're not...You're calling it like a fan boy.

Which is cool, we all have that 1 guy that we back no matter what.

Molina and Kirkland are very close to each other in terms of class of fighter.
I'm a fan boy because I have no respect whatsoever for the way Molina fought Kirk and his 118 clinches?

That was sissy boy crap. If I'm a fan boy for having zero respect for Molina as a fighter after what he did, then so be it.
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Old 04-03-2012, 12:13 AM
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I see both sides of the arguement.

Molina has crafty skills. he showed that vs Lara and Cintron.

In stretches he showed it with his footwork and combination punching vs Kirkland.

But the clinching was excessive and took away from his boxing because it focused the fight on the clinching and not his good foot work and quick counters.

Can Molina deal with James without clinching that much? I don't know. He could adjust and perhaps find another way to confuse and or frustrate Kirkland.

Or James might KO him.

Hard for me to tell.
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Old 04-03-2012, 12:15 AM
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Lol @ Canelo beating "the shit out of" a prime legit JMW.
I know you don't like Canelo but Kirkland would get his ass handed to him.
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Old 04-03-2012, 12:16 AM
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in terms of a williams fight put them up prime for prime keepin their past as the past,,

i see kirk havin problems with p-wills jab and p-will pumping combos all night Pwill will also have 6 inches on Kirkland


as regard to a possible rematch with molina i think if molina wasnt allowed to clinch all night he'd pot-shot his way to a UD
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Old 04-03-2012, 12:17 AM
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I see both sides of the arguement.

Molina has crafty skills. he showed that vs Lara and Cintron.

In stretches he showed it with his footwork and combination punching vs Kirkland.

But the clinching was excessive and took away from his boxing because it focused the fight on the clinching and not his good foot work and quick counters.

Can Molina deal with James without clinching that much? I don't know. He could adjust and perhaps find another way to confuse and or frustrate Kirkland.

Or James might KO him.

Hard for me to tell.
That's how I feel.

It's really hard to tell. That is why a rematch would be nice. It doesn't have to happen next. But, I would like for it to happen while both are still relevant.
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in terms of a williams fight put them up prime for prime keepin their past as the past,,

i see kirk havin problems with p-wills jab and p-will pumping combos all night Pwill will also have 6 inches on Kirkland


as regard to a possible rematch with molina i think if molina wasnt allowed to clinch all night he'd pot-shot his way to a UD
PW doesn't use his height much. He like to fight on the inside.

Only time I've ever seen him use his height well was vs Margo for the first 8 rounds.
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