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Old 04-01-2012, 04:56 PM
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De La Hoya? Mayweather? Cotto? And those guys actually did it the right way by using lawyers and in the court rooms. Gamboa might look "cool" by the actions he's doing lately standing up to Arum and Top Rank but he's foolish if he thinks they're just going to sit back and take him making a fool out of them. I believe he's still under contract with him for a while, big mistake on his part.
This Arum will do everything to ruin him
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Old 04-01-2012, 04:57 PM
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Ruin? If I'm not mistaken, DLH, Floyd, and now Cotto got the biggest pay days ever after leaving Top Rank. Arum is a snake who rips his fighters off, Pacquiao is living proof!
arum is a snake but he did a lot for those guys career, especially cotto. the matchmaking and reinventing cotto after the pac loss was fantastic by top rank. he got cotto a title shot immediately after being knocked out in new York, had a successful ppv against mayorga and of course Margarito as well.

the thing with these three guys is they got so big they don't need arum anymore and can make more money. Gamboa isn't in the same boat yet and maybe never will be.
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Old 04-01-2012, 05:04 PM
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At least he still has his dignity right

He cant fight or make money but good ole dignity will get him by
Dignity is more important. It doesn't matter if you don't have any food on your table. Fights are not important to fans.

These are the kinds of fans we have nowadays. Nuthuggers.

So damn clear that Gamboa fvked up and they still blame everyone but the pu&&y.

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Old 04-01-2012, 05:09 PM
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This Arum will do everything to ruin him
If Gamboa really wants to leave he'll most likely pay his way out and sign with Oscar or Floyd. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if Arum somehow intimidated Gamboa and forced him to stay like he did with Donaire.
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Old 04-01-2012, 05:09 PM
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no he isn't
and he didn't let Arum make him a huge star first as others did
build yourself up with a good promoter, then leave
Gamboa is fucking up right now
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Old 04-01-2012, 05:41 PM
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arum is a snake but he did a lot for those guys career, especially cotto. the matchmaking and reinventing cotto after the pac loss was fantastic by top rank. he got cotto a title shot immediately after being knocked out in new York, had a successful ppv against mayorga and of course Margarito as well.

the thing with these three guys is they got so big they don't need arum anymore and can make more money. Gamboa isn't in the same boat yet and maybe never will be.
I agree with the bold, it's not as easy as just saying "Arum is screwing me over, **** him I'm done with Top Rank". I'm sure Oscar, Cotto, and Floyd had teams of lawyers and people looking into their contracts and having to put up their own money to get out, it's not as simple as it looks and things can get very messy. A good example is Donaire who was walking around as pretty much a Golden Boy fighter, but he didn't realize how long Arum's leash is and is now back in the Top Rank stable.
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Old 04-01-2012, 06:01 PM
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I agree with the bold, it's not as easy as just saying "Arum is screwing me over, **** him I'm done with Top Rank". I'm sure Oscar, Cotto, and Floyd had teams of lawyers and people looking into their contracts and having to put up their own money to get out, it's not as simple as it looks and things can get very messy. A good example is Donaire who was walking around as pretty much a Golden Boy fighter, but he didn't realize how long Arum's leash is and is now back in the Top Rank stable.
right, donaire and/or his manager/wife didn't realize he was still under contract.

A contract is a contract and unless there is some loophole, like Floyd being able to buy his out for less that a million (which I'm sure arum learned from since then) you're pretty much stuck until it expires.

Gamboa had a worse situation because he has two promoters. Personally I think the bigger problem might be with Ahmet ner than with Top Rank. I'm sure he's fighting thinking "WTF am I paying ner for when Top Rank is basically doing all the work?" I kinda have a feeling if he can get rid of ner somehow Gamboa would be fine and happy fighting under top rank. Cuz as of now he has two promoters taking a % of his money, not to mention his manager, his trainer and whoever else he might be paying.
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what u mean "stand up to him?" what stanbding up is there to even do ? are u saying bob arum is c orrupt.. really the same guy who made pacquiao millions of dollar?
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Old 04-01-2012, 06:21 PM
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Gamboa is a fool and being played like on.
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