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Old 03-31-2012, 01:00 PM
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You are confusing sweet science with being a flat out chicken. Two different things. Lundy showed a good display of it by properly balancing defense a good offense. Marquez is the master of this along with Pacquiao. Others just run and move like maniacs jabbing their way into a cowardly win.
The jab is the most important punch in boxing. Like Ali said " you can win a fight with just a jab if you know how to use it. What you call cowardly ,those that understand boxing call it smart!
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Old 03-31-2012, 01:02 PM
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To quote Roger Mayweather: "You don't know **** about boxing".
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Old 03-31-2012, 01:12 PM
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Boxing and moving, hitting and not getting hit is just one aspect of boxing, you can't say it's the TRUE art of boxing. This sport has many aspects and that's what makes it so great. Guys like Armstrong, Marciano, Dempsey are ATGs in their own right even if they don't fit your description of the sweet science.
WRONG SIR! Fighting has many aspects, not boxing. The SWEET SCIENCE is the practice of hitting without getting hit, there is no if ands or buts about it. Dempsey,Marciano were walking punching bags. They were hella fighters that were beast at brawling, but they ate twice as many punches as they landed, it it were not for thier brute strength and raw punching power we would not even be talking about them now. Thier is a huge difference between boxers and brawlers. Boxers avoid punishment, brawlers welcome it. The SWEET SCIENCE is about avoiding punishment.

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Old 03-31-2012, 01:23 PM
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Bradley has ZERO offensive skill, all he can do is spoil and throw weak flailing punches.

Running isn't boxing and if Dirrell could box then he wouldn't run so much
??? Bradley has GOOD OVERALL BOXING SKILLS WTF are you talking about?
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Old 03-31-2012, 01:38 PM
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You are confusing sweet science with being a flat out chicken. Two different things. Lundy showed a good display of it by properly balancing defense a good offense. Marquez is the master of this along with Pacquiao. Others just run and move like maniacs jabbing their way into a cowardly win.
I agree with that.
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Old 03-31-2012, 01:41 PM
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anyway as for the Topic...JMM and Mayweather are at the very top of course

after that then i would go with Ward and Chad Dawson, then you have the younger up and coming fighters like Broner, Lundy, Russell Jr...I would also put in Mikey Garcia in that young group as well, the dude has the potential to be a excellent all around fighter, he is very patent and a excellent YOUNG Counter Puncher

also Robert Guerrero has very good Boxing SKILLS, also Carlos Molina...despite the way he fought last week, but against Lara and Cintron, he showed very good Boxing Skills and even at times against Kirkland when he wasn't clinching he was still out-boxing Kirkland

also Gabriel Campillo, he gets robbed ALL THE TIME but he even out-boxed most of the fighters he "LOST" to

so for the Ignorant People who think "Sweet Science" "Slick" "Boxer" is mostly just talking about...BLACK AMERICAN FIGHTERS...YOUR IGNORANT and you need to learn more about this sport you claim your a fan of

Brawlers are Brawlers because they don't have talent, speed, reflexes or footwork to be a Boxer...if they had those things do you honestly think they would be a Brawler? HELL NO! Nobody wants to get blasted in the face for 12 rounds, nobody is GIVEN A FIGHTING STYLE, you develop a fighting style around your natural abilities then, once you figure out the things you can and can't do that is when you fight style starts to develop

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Old 03-31-2012, 01:46 PM
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WRONG SIR! Fighting has many aspects, not boxing. The SWEET SCIENCE is the practice of hitting without getting hit, there is no if ands or buts about it. Dempsey,Marciano were walking punching bags. They were hella fighters that were beast at brawling, but they ate twice as many punches as they landed, it it were not for thier brute strength and raw punching power we would not even be talking about them now. Thier is a huge difference between boxers and brawlers. Boxers avoid punishment, brawlers welcome it. The SWEET SCIENCE is about avoiding punishment.
But brawling is one aspect of the sport of boxing. These guys were professional boxers and are considered ATGs in this sport, which shows that there is no "true" art of boxing.
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Old 03-31-2012, 01:53 PM
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Bradley has ZERO offensive skill, all he can do is spoil and throw weak flailing punches.

Running isn't boxing and if Dirrell could box then he wouldn't run so much

Bradley has skills, he is a very effective boxer!
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Old 03-31-2012, 01:57 PM
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Tim Bradley is a well rounded fighter, so you must be thinking about someone else - I hope!
Well rounded at what? What the heck can he do besides jump in head first with wild flailing punches and tie up? ZERO offensive skill.
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Old 03-31-2012, 02:08 PM
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But brawling is one aspect of the sport of boxing. These guys were professional boxers and are considered ATGs in this sport, which shows that there is no "true" art of boxing.
Dude I give up, your not making any sense. Im not argueing if those guys were ATGs. You dont have to be a master of the SWEET SCIENCE TO BE AN ATG.I see you dont know the difference between brawlers and boxers. Brawling is one aspect of "FIGHTING" in the sport of boxing, but brawling and boxing are like apples and oranges, there completely the oppisite of each other. Its two completely differrent forms. Boxng is the style of avoiding punishment, brawling is the style of welcoming and accepting punishment. There are many brawlers that are concider to be ATGs, but SWEET SCIENCE is what seperates the sport of boxing from all other fightng sports.

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