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Old 03-26-2012, 04:10 PM
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i don't think Kirkland is going to get very far. With what he showed Sat. suprised he got this far. Dude lacks in the skills and ring iq dept. Once he steps up to the above average level I think he will be terribly outclassed. Kirkland has major flaws and needs a lot of work to overcome them.
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Old 03-26-2012, 04:15 PM
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Was it a bad night??why did he look so slow??what does he need to work on?guy has talent and lots of strength but something is missing


he did not look that slow

he never really let his hands go because molina's head was not a stationary target

when his hands started moving they were still fast enough to get the job done


he's a very limited fighter. if he cant engage in a gunfight and blow a guy's doors off with power he will lose every single time.
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Old 03-26-2012, 04:20 PM
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he did not look that slow

he never really let his hands go because molina's head was not a stationary target

when his hands started moving they were still fast enough to get the job done


he's a very limited fighter. if he cant engage in a gunfight and blow a guy's doors off with power he will lose every single time.
Agreed. I had Molina winning 7 of those 10 rounds, the only rounds I gave Kirkland were 5-6-10. So, had the fight continued, Kirkland was down 96-93 because of the knockdown. I hope they rematch.

Kirkland needs to come out like he did in the 10th, throw tons of punches and apply effective pressure, and when he tries that hold-hit-push back with his head in your face-punch-let go-hold again s**t, push him off you and kick his a$$, just like he did in the 10th. Had the ref actually warned Molina early on and may be even deducted a point for the excessive holding before the 10th round, I doubt Molina would have held 16 times during that round when he was hurt. Kirkland very well may have stopped him in the 10th if not for the holding.
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Old 03-26-2012, 04:26 PM
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he did not look that slow

he never really let his hands go because molina's head was not a stationary target

when his hands started moving they were still fast enough to get the job done


he's a very limited fighter. if he cant engage in a gunfight and blow a guy's doors off with power he will lose every single time.
if he cant engage in a gunfight and blow a guy's doors off with power he will lose every single time.

I'm thinking same thing.
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Old 03-26-2012, 04:26 PM
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Agreed. I had Molina winning 7 of those 10 rounds, the only rounds I gave Kirkland were 5-6-10. So, had the fight continued, Kirkland was down 96-93 because of the knockdown. I hope they rematch.

Kirkland needs to come out like he did in the 10th, throw tons of punches and apply effective pressure, and when he tries that hold-hit-push back with his head in your face-punch-let go-hold again s**t, push him off you and kick his a$$, just like he did in the 10th. Had the ref actually warned Molina early on and may be even deducted a point for the excessive holding before the 10th round, I doubt Molina would have held 16 times during that round when he was hurt. Kirkland very well may have stopped him in the 10th if not for the holding.


in that aspect angulo is lightyears beyond the fighter that kirkland is. he knows how to keep his hands free. he can walk through offense. he cuts the ring off intuitively. he wants to back you up

kirkland wants you to swing wildly with him in the middle of the ring. if you dont he's pretty well cooked.

i also think angulo takes a better shot. kirkland beat the **** out of him and he only went down when he was punched out from throwing constantly for two mins, and then he started takign a beating later on and showing the effect only when he became totally exhaused


kirkland is a very limited fighter and he will not go far. prison (two stints there,) has also thrown a huge wrench into his career. he's got a young man's style. once he slows down and has trouble taking the punches he's going to be all but finished



GBP should keep him in exciting fights and get him in there right away. he's not going to fight forever. he does have a lot going for him. he can be a terrific network TV attraction and action fighter
he's just never going to pan out into a great fighter.
no way jose
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Old 03-26-2012, 04:27 PM
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if he cant engage in a gunfight and blow a guy's doors off with power he will lose every single time.

I'm thinking same thing.
That's why I couldn't believe he didn't push and toss Molina off him until the 10th and kicked his a$$. I was literally yelling "throw his punk a$$ off you and kick his a$$ James!" the whole fight until it happened in the 10th.
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Old 03-26-2012, 04:29 PM
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in that aspect angulo is lightyears beyond the fighter that kirkland is. he knows how to keep his hands free. he can walk through offense. he cuts the ring off intuitively. he wants to back you up

kirkland wants you to swing wildly with him in the middle of the ring. if you dont he's pretty well cooked.

i also think angulo takes a better shot. kirkland beat the **** out of him and he only went down when he was punched out from throwing constantly for two mins, and then he started takign a beating later on and showing the effect only when he became totally exhaused


kirkland is a very limited fighter and he will not go far. prison (two stints there,) has also thrown a huge wrench into his career. he's got a young man's style. once he slows down and has trouble taking the punches he's going to be all but finished



GBP should keep him in exciting fights and get him in there right away. he's not going to fight forever. he does have a lot going for him. he can be a terrific network TV attraction and action fighter
he's just never going to pan out into a great fighter.
no way jose
Once Kirkland gets into his 30's, he'll slow down, and be beaten everytime probably. I just couldn't beleive he didn't throw Molina off him till the 10th.
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Not sure, don't care. All I know is that he is going to be exciting throughout his career.

Just like Rios the roller coaster might be quick it will have lots of ups and downs. But, it's going to be a fun ride while it last.
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Just like Rios the roller coaster might be quick it will have lots of ups and downs. But, it's going to be a fun ride while it last.
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