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Old 03-23-2012, 10:28 PM
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We have the right because United States of America said so! Haha. I still don't get why some people from other countries are so concerned about why we have certain freedoms. To each their own.
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Old 03-23-2012, 10:32 PM
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Old 03-23-2012, 10:32 PM
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Ok, thank you for that, great explanation!

What's the purpose of it now though, it seems like does more harm than good.
Well, like many amendments in the constitution, the origins definitely seem to be from an ancient relic of a bygone era. . .

There's a lot of reasons why the second amendment hasn't been, nor will probably ever be overturned. . . Many people now just have this mindset that our founding fathers were so noble, and that we need to honor the constitution. .

Others believe that the amendment still has just as much relevance now; not just to protect from potential government tyranny, but from other citizens - it's a fundamental right to be able to "defend your home"

In the Supreme Court, there are two main ways of interpreting the constitution - originalist thinking, which is basically just interpreting the constitution word for word, as it literally was written. . Others, take an "organic" approach - meaning that they think we should "read between the lines", and that the constitution is a "living, evolving" document that should change, and applied depending on the needs of the people.
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Old 03-23-2012, 10:35 PM
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Well, like many amendments in the constitution, the origins definitely seem to be from an ancient relic of a bygone era. . .

There's a lot of reasons why the second amendment hasn't been, nor will probably ever be overturned. . . Many people now just have this mindset that our founding fathers were so noble, and that we need to honor the constitution. .

Others believe that the amendment still has just as much relevance now; not just to protect from potential government tyranny, but from other citizens - it's a fundamental right to be able to "defend your home"

In the Supreme Court, there are two main ways of interpreting the constitution - originalist thinking, which is basically just interpreting the constitution word for word, as it literally was written. . Others, take an "organic" approach - meaning that they think we should "read between the lines", and that the constitution is a "living, evolving" document that should change, and applied depending on the needs of the people.
So what is your opinion on this matter?
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It's just become so engrained in our culture. . . I tend to agree that we should have the rights to own guns, but there should be strict regulations on WHAT KIND of gun you can own, and WHO can own a gun. . . To use a hackneyed, cliche - "guns don't kill people, Chuck Norris kills people". . . (seriously, though, PEOPLE kill people). . I think blaming it on the fact that it is legal to own guns detracts from the REAL REASON why tragedies like this happen.
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So what is your opinion on this matter?

I believe we should have the right to own guns. . . There needs to be stricter regulations, though. . .
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Old 03-23-2012, 10:39 PM
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I believe we should have the right to own guns. . . There needs to be stricter regulations, though. . .
I think shotguns and rifles for hunting is ok, but I am not ok with owning handguns.

And yeah, people kill people but guns make it a lot easier. Just imagine going in the woods and trying to kill a bird with your bare hands, a rock, a sling shot, a blow-gun, air rifle, shotgun. There is a difference.
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Old 03-23-2012, 10:41 PM
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I'm against guns. Too many retards out there with legit permits that will pull a trigger at a bar if you flirted with his woman.

Having guns just gives people the excuse to use it and try to justify why they shot that un-armed guy 7 times. And I was joking with my other post. You can't even get into a fist fight without being in fear of a gun retaliation.
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Old 03-23-2012, 10:43 PM
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I'm against guns. Too many retards out there with legit permits that will pull a trigger at a bar if you flirted with his woman.

Having guns just gives people the excuse to use it and try to justify why they shot that un-armed guy 7 times. And I was joking with my other post. You can't even get into a fist fight without being in fear of a gun retaliation.
I would be afraid too.
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Old 03-23-2012, 10:45 PM
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I shoot a bare bow or traditional whatever you want to call it. People using compound bows could literally become a better shot than me in 5 to 25 minutes just because of the advantages of this hi tech bow. Then you go with a cross-bow and it's almost the same as a rifle. And right now in the woods,s it's very rare that you see people hunting with a traditional bow, most of the hunting is with rifles, shotguns, compound bows and cross-bows.
So I am relating this to conflict b/w amongst people and the advantages of having a gun, how much easier it is to get to the desired outcome.

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