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Old 03-23-2012, 05:09 PM
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maybe, maybe not. i agree floyd was a bit greedy, but manny shoulda taken what was offered cause it still woulda been the most hes ever made, and its lookin real real good right now...
What Pac gets 40 mil and Mayweather gets 100+mil yeah great deal for Pac lol ffs
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Old 03-23-2012, 05:11 PM
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and only dumbasses thought Marquez would be another walk in the park. they'll never learn that boxers will always trouble pac
JMM wasn't discounted based on skill or age
even past 35, he's been knocking dudes out left and right
his technical game is still world class
JMM was discounted based on size
people forgot Pac isn't a real WW himself
he wasn't visibly bigger and more powerful like expected
people knew JMM had the style, it's proven in 2 previous fights
they thought size alone was the determining factor
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Old 03-23-2012, 05:12 PM
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JMM wasn't discounted based on skill or age
even past 35, he's been knocking dudes out left and right
his technical game is still world class
JMM was discounted based on size
people forgot Pac isn't a real WW himself
he wasn't visibly bigger and more powerful like expected
people knew JMM had the style, it's proven in 2 previous fights
they thought size alone was the determining factor
Never really thought about this but that makes Floyd's win over Marquez semi-respectable actually since Marquez went on to trouble Pacquiao
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Old 03-23-2012, 05:15 PM
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Undefeated because he got a gift from castillo and delahoya lol


Or undefeated because he chooses wisely
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Old 03-23-2012, 05:16 PM
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Mayweather lost to Castillo. Makes me laugh all the Floyd fans saying you dont win on points against Manny what about Floyd hahaha
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Old 03-23-2012, 05:16 PM
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Never really thought about this but that makes Floyd's win over Marquez semi-respectable actually since Marquez went on to trouble Pacquiao
Floyd didn't prove anything in that fight
that's actually why everybody thought Pac would smoke JMM
people thought about JMM vs Floyd and saw WW as too much for JMM
the difference is, Floyd is a real WW and Pac isn't
Floyd was 2 divisions up, Pac was only 1
Pac being at WW recently fooled people into thinking he's a WW
physically, he isn't, he's still just a JWW
he looked good boxing against bigger, slower men
against a smaller guy who can box himself, Pac looked like crap boxing
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Old 03-23-2012, 05:19 PM
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Floyd didn't prove anything in that fight
that's actually why everybody thought Pac would smoke JMM
people thought about JMM vs Floyd and saw WW as too much for JMM
the difference is, Floyd is a real WW and Pac isn't
Floyd was 2 divisions up, Pac was only 1
Pac being at WW recently fooled people into thinking he's a WW
physically, he isn't, he's still just a JWW
he looked good boxing against bigger, slower men
against a smaller guy who can box himself, Pac looked like crap boxing
Pac is a welterweight. Floyd is also a welterweight. They are both small welterweight fighters.

Pac has the much bigger torso and bigger legs, Floyd has like an inch in height and longer arms. Both small for the weight class.
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Old 03-23-2012, 05:30 PM
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Pac is a welterweight. Floyd is also a welterweight. They are both small welterweight fighters.

Pac has the much bigger torso and bigger legs, Floyd has like an inch in height and longer arms. Both small for the weight class.
Pac could still make JWW if he wanted to
no way Floyd could at this point
he couldn't cut down to the catchweight in the JMM fight in 09
Floyd doesn't go up much on fight night like other WW's do
but physically, he's still a legit WW
don't think Pac is, he stays at WW for bigger money
he'd have no problem making 140
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Old 03-23-2012, 05:32 PM
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Floyd is undefeated because he chose to fight the best when they weren't prime!!! Not in all cases mind you, but there were a lot of fights out there that were really dangerous and he didn't want nothin to do with them at the time. That being said he's still an amazing fighter!!!
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Old 03-23-2012, 05:33 PM
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If JLC wanted to win a decsion he should have started trying to win way sooner~ he lost five of the first six rounds which means he would have to sweep the rest of the rounds to win with no knockdowns even taking into account the point deductions because it was one a piece.

The last six round were tough and close but were much closer than the first six.

I don't see how that is a clear JLC win, the first half was clearly Floyd's the second half JLC did better but it was still very give and take and Floyd fought his ass off to not get overrun.

JLC had no intention of winning on the cards though he intended on knocking Floyd out, he failed in his plan and he lost because he failed to do so.

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