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Old 03-20-2012, 02:00 PM
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WTF is going on in boxing right now????

Everytime I log in, things are getting worse and worse in the boxing world.

Martinez has no problem's fighting Pac at 150, but must fight Kirkland at 160????

Lace em up and do what you're paid to do.

Thoughts?
Pac= BIG $$$$

Kirland=Less Money
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Old 03-20-2012, 02:00 PM
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if floyd or manny want to fight paper champs at 154 why not fight a legit 154lber. also if floyd wants to equal or surpass manny without fighting him than sergio is the way to go at 160.
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Old 03-20-2012, 02:01 PM
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martinez fan boys continue to cover up for that bike rider but the proof is in the pudding !!!!!!!! sergio would rather fight smaller guys and euro bums !!!!! but he wont pick on someone thats his own size !!!!! he wants to get in the ring with manny and floyd so he can out weigh both of them by at least 17 pounds on fight night !!!!!!!!!!!!!

thanks for uncovering that mystery for us. that is why pac poses zero threat to sergio, cause sergio is way bigger. out of kirkland, mayweather, and pacquiao, pac poses the least amount of threat to sergio.

any other unsolvable issues you can solve for us?
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Old 03-20-2012, 02:04 PM
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I remember you advocating and being excited for a fight with Wolak vs Vanes/Rodriguez, but you really don't care to see Martinez vs Kirkland?

In all due respect, you make no sense at times, man.
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Old 03-20-2012, 02:06 PM
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No, Anne Wolfe said they needed a few (2) fights to be ready for Martinez. They're fighting in #1 this weekend. If Kirkland wins then goes on to beat Vanes or Canelo next, the Martinez fight is right there.
Same thing. So this discussion is kinda moot until Anne Wolfe feels Kirkland is ready.
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Old 03-20-2012, 02:06 PM
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Pac= BIG $$$$

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But money wasn't the issue when Martinez called out Mayweather. He'd basically fight Mayweather for free. By the time Martinez paid his trainer, promoter, cut man and manager, he'd make more money fighting Kirkland than Mayweather.
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Meh, this fight is not a PPV fight. They can put it on PPV but it won't sell well. Neither guy has a fans base.

But, it is about money. Martinez is a MW, he might not want to struggle to make 154 for the likes of Kirkland. Because, the reward(money) isn't enticing enough to take risk(making weight).

Then again since Lou knows that neither Martinez or Kirkland can sell out anything. The one selling point they do have is the MW title. You can sell fighting for a championship better than fighting for a none title. He was willing to do a catch-weight of 155 against Angulo. Just to sell it to the public as a title fight. Similar thing can happen with Kirkland.

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probly cause kirkland at 154 is much more dangerous than pac at 150. yea kirklands chin is suspect, but he can bang, and at 150 pac poses no threat to sergio, whereas kirkland poses a big threat. this is not a difficult question to answer
That's a pretty stupid logic since Martinez would be much weaker, much much weaker at 150 than he would be at 154. But, you keep thinking that Kirkland has a better chance against a still pretty Martinez at 154 than what Pac would have against a possibly drained Martinez at 150.

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in martinez kirkland sergios the boss, in pacquiao martinez mannys the boss.
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"pac poses the least amount of threat to sergio."

no manny poses the biggest threat and kirkland is 2nd biggest threat !!!!!!!!! why because manny is accosted to fighting bigger fighters !!!!!! when he demolished margarita he was outweighted by alot of pounds !!!! but it didnt stop manny from destroying the the same guy that beat the bike rider !!!!!!!!
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But money wasn't the issue when Martinez called out Mayweather. He'd basically fight Mayweather for free. By the time Martinez paid his trainer, promoter, cut man and manager, he'd make more money fighting Kirkland than Mayweather.
No.....just no.

Forget the money even, do you understand the difference in significance between those two fights?
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Old 03-20-2012, 02:09 PM
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Same thing. So this discussion is kinda moot until Anne Wolfe feels Kirkland is ready.
Did Lou Dibella say anything about Anne Wolfe during his interview? No.

His reason was "He won't fight Kirkland unless it's at 160 lb's.". Which is what we're talking about now. That's straight up shady.

If Dibella said, "we'll fight Kirkland at 154, but Anne Wolfe said Kirk's not ready", I would understand what you're saying and agree. For all we know, Dibella probably never even heard that interview from Wolfe.

But we're talking about agreeing to fight Pac at 150, but has to fight Kirkland at 160.

That completely baffles me.
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