Martinez is DYING to fight the HUGE Chavez but is too small to fight Bute or Ward? - Page 5

UglyPug

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Originally Posted by vacon04

Sergio walks around around 175-176 and his fight night weight was not 170, but around 165. Ward is heavier on the scales than Martinez on fight night.

The difference between Martinez and Ward on fight night would be MUCH CLOSER than the difference between Pac/Floyd and Sergio. . .

The "natural size" difference between Floyd/Pac is a lot greater than between Sergio and Ward.

If Pac and Floyd cut weight like Sergio did, they'd be fighting at 140, maybe even 135 for Pac.

Money Team.

Do Bute and Ward fight at mw or are they willing to come down to mw?

Davis40

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Originally Posted by Atreyu Khalil

What sense does this make? Is he afraid of Ward & Butes boxing skill?

what sense does it make that the only reason u care is you,re afraid you're little floydie boy might have to fight someone bigger. you want floydie to cherry pick the rest of his career away because you love him so much. you're jealous of Leonard ellerbie because he gets to massage him all day.

UglyPug

You can't tell me the natural size between Sergio and Andre Ward is greater, or the same, as it is between Sergio and Pac/Floyd. . . Common sense will tell you that, just by looking at their frames.

I'd have no problem with Sergio saying "thanks, but no thanks" to moving up in weight, BUT the fact that he acts like he's being "DUCKED" by guys as small as pac/may just makes him look like a hypocrite. . . MOREOVER, he shouldn't call himself the "pound for pound people's champion." If his fans would just admit he is EXACTLY like any other boxer - he simply wants to make the most money by taking the least risk, it wouldn't be bad.

Dirk Diggler UK

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Originally Posted by UglyPug

You can't tell me the natural size between Sergio and Andre Ward is greater, or the same, as it is between Sergio and Pac/Floyd. . . Common sense will tell you that, just by looking at their frames.

I'd have no problem with Sergio saying "thanks, but no thanks" to moving up in weight, BUT the fact that he acts like he's being "DUCKED" by guys as small as pac/may just makes him look like a hypocrite. . . MOREOVER, he shouldn't call himself the "pound for pound people's champion." If his fans would just admit he is EXACTLY like any other boxer - he simply wants to make the most money by taking the least risk, it wouldn't be bad.

He would be a hypocrite if he turned down a fight with Ward at 160lbs. Until then, he is not.

The only hypocrisy is rejecting opponents at 160 like Pirog because they aren't big enough names whilst fighting Macklin and Barker.

UglyPug

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Originally Posted by Dirk Diggler UK

He would be a hypocrite if he turned down a fight with Ward at 160lbs. Until then, he is not.

The only hypocrisy is rejecting opponents at 160 like Pirog because they aren't big enough names whilst fighting Macklin and Barker.

So calling out Manny and Floyd to fight above their natural weight (yes, they've gone up to 150-154 because they are REAL pound for pound champions who will fight WELL above their natural weights), but refusing to fight above his natural weight isn't hypocritical?

Will he go down to 147 to fight Manny or Floyd? NO! He wants to meet them at a 150 pound catchweight. . . So he should be willing to meet ward at a 164 pound catchweight. . .

UglyPug

Haha as Floyd would say: "Sergio a hoe"!

BoxingGenius27

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Originally Posted by UglyPug

So calling out Manny and Floyd to fight above their natural weight (yes, they've gone up to 150-154 because they are REAL pound for pound champions who will fight WELL above their natural weights), but refusing to fight above his natural weight isn't hypocritical?

I think that's a good point.

Nicolino

It seems that Sulaiman and Top Rank are not enough to protect JCChavez Jr., you need a bunch of trolls to post the same **** all over again, they will always find new names for Sergio to fight.

Pin Galarga

Less face it, Bute and Ward have his speed but then a lot more skills because they have been students of the game while Sergio was riding his bike and playing soccer.
Is not the Ward and Bute are bigger, is that they are better and Chavez case, He knows He can beat the paper champ.

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