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Originally posted by Larryx2011 View PostSo you dont think Hopkins was great before moving up?
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Originally posted by Mike Haynes View PostAbsolutely. Hagler had sixty something fights at middleweight and fought some great competition (that moved up) throughout his career.
Ward has nothing left to prove at 168 and we haven't found the beast at 160who's moving up in weight that would be a threat to Ward. Plus there is a lot of competition at 175 in America.
The Dirrell Brothers, Lucian Bute, Robert Stieglitz...also up and comers like Thomas Oosthuizen, Edwin Rodriguez, George Groves...
Ward is just getting started in his Division and as a fighter he is just entering his PRIME, Super 6 was just the FIRST CHAPTER of Ward's Pro Career
but yeah he will probably move up to 175 eventually
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Originally posted by KnockUTheFukOut View Post???
The Dirrell Brothers, Lucian Bute, Robert Stieglitz...also up and comers like Thomas Oosthuizen, Edwin Rodriguez, George Groves...
Ward is just getting started in his Division and as a fighter he is just entering his PRIME, Super 6 was just the FIRST CHAPTER of Ward's Pro Career
but yeah he will probably move up to 175 eventually
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Originally posted by -GDS- View PostTo be a great fighter today, you almost have to be a weight jumper, kinda of stupid, but whatever. But to really be great, no matter what, he needs to fight Bute and Dirrell. If he does that and makes a Hopkin's style run at 168, maybe he could be considered great if he never moved up.
He has beaten the other great fighters in his division. Kessler, Froch. Those are the only other "great" fighters in his weight, he's beaten them. Bute is not "greaT" or anywhere near it, nor is Dirrell. They are just good fighters, aspiring to be.
There are tough fights ahead for him, but he's beaten the whos who of the top of the food chain IMO, at this point everyone else is just to increase his name. I expect to see him move to 175 and get either a Kess Rematch (assuming Kess keeps impressing in another fight) or accepting a challenge by the Cloud/Pascal winner.
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ofcourse he could, plenty of great fighters only fought in one weightclass. its all about who you beat and theres plenty of talent at 168.
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