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Old 03-16-2012, 04:43 PM
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You pretend like its not a shot at them but it is. You didnt do your HW and make no sense with this thread.

Im not sure how Hatton secured his legacy in the US either, going 2-4 and losing his only 2 big fights
Why are you so defensive. Do you think I'm some sort of racist because I like Mayweather or something?

Show me one post/thread in my history where I've said anything negative about Wlad or Vitali? I'll wait.

So what would slightly make you think that I'm taking a "shot" at the K2 bros?

The way you're reacting in this thread, makes me think that you think I'm racist or something. Which is ironic, because you have a deep track record/trend of hating on African American fighters.

Relax man, not everyone is like yourself.
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Old 03-16-2012, 04:48 PM
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I understand what you mean

You pretend like its not a shot at them but it is. You didnt do your HW and make no sense with this thread.

Im not sure how Hatton secured his legacy in the US either, going 2-4 and losing his only 2 big fights
You sound "butthurt"
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Old 03-16-2012, 04:56 PM
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Even Calzaghe, Hatton, Lewis and Schmeling had to leave Europe at some point to try and cap off their legacy. Dariuz never left and how he's looked at in the future will suffer because of it.

But, I think the K2 bros are in a position to where they never have to leave Europe and will go down in history as one of the greatest in history.

What do you think and are there any other Europeans in this position?

There aren't any that I know of.
The Klitschko's have both fought in the US several times, but I do understand the point you are making. They can keep fighting in Germany if they like and still make it easily.

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Old 03-16-2012, 04:59 PM
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why would they come fight here when no1 wants to see them here? i kno its fun to criticize the bros, but this isnt a valid criticism. there are no good heavyweights for them to fight here and they make a killing fighting in euro land.
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Old 03-16-2012, 05:00 PM
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The Klitschko's have both fought in the US several times, but I do understand the point you are making. They can keep fighting in Gernany if they like and still make it easily.
Exactly. Things haven't always been this way.
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Old 03-16-2012, 05:11 PM
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Exactly. Things haven't always been this way.
It's because the best in the division were predominantly American. Now they aren't.
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Old 03-16-2012, 05:12 PM
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Old 03-16-2012, 05:16 PM
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It's because the best in the division were predominantly American. Now they aren't.
Yes, up until now, European fighters have had to normally fight in the U.S to build on their legacy. Normally, they would challenge an American champion and end up losing; therefore, losing their leverage to fight on their home turf (Europe). But now, it's completely different times.

I think Calzaghe would've been the only other European that would've had the chance to defend his belt on his home turf, like the K2 bros do, but obviously he ended up retiring.

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Old 03-16-2012, 05:39 PM
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Yes, up until now, European fighters have had to normally fight in the U.S to build on their legacy. Normally, they would challenge an American champion and end up losing; therefore, losing their leverage to fight on their home turf (Europe). But now, it's completely different times.

I think Calzaghe would've been the only other European that would've had the chance to defend his belt on his home turf, like the K2 bros do, but obviously he ended up retiring.
I think Calzaghe came across at an opportune time, the Klitschko's came across, made a good name, now fight overseas, make a good living and draw more fans to arena's that anyone else in boxing, including Pacquiao, as long as he's not fighting Mayweather that is.
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The only time that "he needs to leave his country and fight outside his home to make a name/ complete his legacy" critique is when a fighter has never left his home/and or has not fought anybody of noteworthy.

The k bros not only have fought every heavyweight they could fight but have fought all over the world including the U.S. It doesnt even matter if you never leave your friendly confines as long as you fight who you need to fight to make a name for yourself.

This is just a dumb misguided thread trying to hate on the k bros.
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