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Old 01-04-2013, 05:06 PM
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Demeo was most likely killed by Joseph Testa and Anthony Senter although the cops thought Anthony Gaggi was the one who did it.

Galante was killed by several of Indelicato's men.

Hoffa was likely killed by Giacalone and Provenzano.


That was all well known and the only one who ever linked Kuklinski to those hits was Kuklinski himself. Guy was a complete joke. I don't trust a single word he ever uttered.
That was three. What about the rest of the hits the iceman said he made for the mob. Who did the mob say REALLY did them?
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That was three. What about the rest of the hits the iceman said he made for the mob. Who did the mob say REALLY did them?
Name me any mob hit Kuklinski mentioned to his own credit and I will easily counter it with historical facts and opinions by experts. Like I said, the ONLY people that ever linked any of those hits to Kuklinski's name was Kuklinski himself. No reputable source has ever given him such credit at all, those hits were all done by real mobsters high up the ranks. If it is a fact that he lied this many times about murders, then why would you take anything he says seriously? I mean, 'yeah I killed 100 people. *some time later* yeah no, I killed 200 people' lol.

This mess really started when Philip Carlo wrote the book and took all of Kuklinski's claims without doing any research himself. No matter how much you guys want it all to be true, this guy is a total fraud and actor. Sorry that you were fooled by his lies, but it's ok because he got me too when I first saw those specials on tv.
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Old 01-04-2013, 05:26 PM
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Name me any mob hit Kuklinski mentioned to his own credit and I will easily counter it with historical facts and opinions by experts. Like I said, the ONLY people that ever linked any of those hits to Kuklinski's name was Kuklinski himself. No reputable source has ever given him such credit at all, those hits were all done by real mobsters high up the ranks. If it is a fact that he lied this many times about murders, then why would you take anything he says seriously? I mean, 'yeah I killed 100 people. *some time later* yeah no, I killed 200 people' lol.

This mess really started when Philip Carlo wrote the book and took all of Kuklinski's claims without doing any research himself. No matter how much you guys want it all to be true, this guy is a total fraud and actor. Sorry that you were fooled by his lies, but it's ok because he got me too when I first saw those specials on tv.
Eeerrrmmm.... It was actually you who said that the iceman made 'tons' of hitclaims that the mob said he didn't do.

Maybe these 'tons' consists of 3 that was 'most likely' killed by someone else.


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Eeerrrmmm.... It was actually you who said that the iceman made 'tons' of hitclaims that the mob said he didn't do.

Maybe these 'tons' consists of 3 that was 'most likely' killed by someone else.


lol It's so difficult to admit that you're wrong isn't it?

Yes off the top of my head he has lied about killing Castelano, Demeo, Hoffa, Gravano and the cop that was working with the mob. If somebody lies about one thing he's untrustworthy to me, but that many times? That makes him a joke.

I love the fact that you keep ignoring the fact that Maffia experts and mobsters themselves have never even mentioned this senile bum, they all mentioned real members of the mob who did the hits. And again, the only person that claims Kuklinski did them instead is Kuklinski himself, nobody else. You guys are so gullible haha.
I bet you would believe anything this guy said. Keep being gullible and childish. I've exposed this fraud Kuklinski already.
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I've now read all the posts from the last pages.

A question, how many people were killed where the "freezing the body technique to confuse the time of the murder" occurred. This is supposedly a signature trait of his 'thus the Iceman moniker.

Perhaps BKM-2010 should answer this since he has his homework on this. How many were killed with that technique that could be linked to Kuklinski? Or are you saying that he even lied about the 'freezing of the bodies' too and someone else did that?
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I've now read all the posts from the last pages.

A question, how many people were killed where the "freezing the body technique to confuse the time of the murder" occurred. This is supposedly a signature trait of his 'thus the Iceman moniker.

Perhaps BKM-2010 should answer this since he has his homework on this. How many were killed with that technique that could be linked to Kuklinski? Or are you saying that he even lied about the 'freezing of the bodies' too and someone else did that?
He was convicted of 5 murders. One of the bodies was found near a lake and during the autopsy they discovered ice inside the body. So yes that did happen, and it was ultimately one of the reasons he screwed himself.
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