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Old 03-02-2012, 09:53 AM
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he fought damn good fighters like Haye, Chagaev, Ibragimov, Byrd...
All those fighters were bums, but Wlad fought who was out there. You are giving him too much praise for what he did against a weak division. If anything, his knockouts were not spectacular enough for the competition he faced. It takes 9 or 10 rounds to get a bum out of there when you yourself outweigh them and have height and reach over all of them. That's not what I would call overly impressive, but he did what he could.
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Old 03-02-2012, 09:57 AM
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All those fighters were bums, but Wlad fought who was out there. You are giving him too much praise for what he did against a weak division. If anything, his knockouts were not spectacular enough for the competition he faced. It takes 9 or 10 rounds to get a bum out of there when you yourself outweigh them and have height and reach over all of them. That's not what I would call overly impressive, but he did what he could.
really? all those fighters were bums? Chagaev a bum? Haye a bum? Haye is a future hall of famer. Ibragimov is an excellent fighter. Byrd is borderline Hall of famer as well. If you go to that place and call all of them "bums", then Joe Louis and Muhammad Ali are also bums cause then everybody is a bum.
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Old 03-02-2012, 10:01 AM
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All those fighters were bums
Lol....no.
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Old 03-02-2012, 10:04 AM
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really? all those fighters were bums? Chagaev a bum? Haye a bum? Haye is a future hall of famer. Ibragimov is an excellent fighter. Byrd is borderline Hall of famer as well. If you go to that place and call all of them "bums", then Joe Louis and Muhammad Ali are also bums cause then everybody is a bum.
Haye or Byrd are not hall of famers
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Old 03-02-2012, 10:09 AM
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Haye or Byrd are not hall of famers
I don't think they're hall of famers either, although Byrd may be a borderline HOFer. But they were still excellent fighters.
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Old 03-02-2012, 10:12 AM
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really? all those fighters were bums? Chagaev a bum? Haye a bum? Haye is a future hall of famer. Ibragimov is an excellent fighter. Byrd is borderline Hall of famer as well. If you go to that place and call all of them "bums", then Joe Louis and Muhammad Ali are also bums cause then everybody is a bum.
hahahahaha OK now looking at your post count, I just realized you're an ALT. Nothing wrong with having a little fun.
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Haye or Byrd are not hall of famers
Byrd is a borderline Hall of famer imo. And Haye was the undisputed Cruiserweight Champion and moved up to HW to win the title. That is called a hall of fame résumé. if Haye isnt a hall of famer, then neither is Roy Jones a hall of famer cause Roy fought lots of half professionals during his whole career and ducked the best fighters of his era in his divisions (Nigel Benn, Eubank, Steve Collins, Darius Michalczewski).

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Byrd is a borderline Hall of famer imo. And Haye was the undisputed Cruiserweight Champion and moved up to HW to win the title. That is called a hall of fame résumé. if Haye isnt a hall of famer, then neither is Roy Jones a hall of famer cause Roy only fought bums during his whole career and ducked the best fighters of his era in his divisions (Nigel Benn, Eubank, Steve Collins, Darius Michalczewski).
never said they were bums just not HOF IMO and roy is a HOF
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Byrd is a borderline Hall of famer imo. And Haye was the undisputed Cruiserweight Champion and moved up to HW to win the title. That is called a hall of fame résumé. if Haye isnt a hall of famer, then neither is Roy Jones a hall of famer cause Roy fought lots of half professionals during his whole career and ducked the best fighters of his era in his divisions (Nigel Benn, Eubank, Steve Collins, Darius Michalczewski).
Come on, don't overdo it. Roy Jones is a top hall of famer and Haye is not, that's for certain.
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never said they were bums just not HOF IMO and roy is a HOF
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Come on, don't overdo it. Roy Jones is a top hall of famer and Haye is not, that's for certain.
Roy Jones is a hall of famer and so is David Haye. Those are facts. If you have a different opinion, good for you.
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