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Old 02-23-2012, 01:49 PM
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Default Jose Sulaiman (WBC) "9.30AM FIGHT DAY Weigh-In Starts From July 1st" (AUDIO)

Jose Sulaiman reveals a new WBC rule scheduled to be implemented on July 1st universally. A weigh-in at 9.30am on the day of the fight will permit the fighter a maximum of 10% increase in weight above their specific weight division.



Some quick maths shows that this translates to the following limits with the actual weight limit on the left hand side, and the fight-day maximum weight on the right side.

Division Weight - Division - Maximum Weight On Fight Day
105 - Minimumweight - 115.5
108 - Light flyweight - 118.8
112 - Flyweight - 123.2
115 - Super flyweight - 126.5
118 - Bantamweight - 129.8
122 - Super bantamweight -134.2
126 - Featherweight - 138.6
130 - Super featherweight - 143
135 - Lightweight - 148.5
140 - Super lightweight - 154
147 - Welterweight - 161.7
154 - Super welterweight - 169.4
160 - Middleweight - 176
168 - Super middleweight - 184.8
175 - Light heavyweight - 192.5
200 - Cruiserweight - 220
unlimited - Heavyweight - unlimited
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Old 02-23-2012, 01:53 PM
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so basically it's like what the IBF does?

Chavez will have to vacate.
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Old 02-23-2012, 02:16 PM
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so basically it's like what the IBF does?

Chavez will have to vacate.
It's a little different to the IBF weigh-in because the IBF permit only a predetermined weight of 10 lbs over the specific weight division on the day of the fight, regardless of the division. I prefer that rule personally. So a welterweight on IBF can come in at 157lb maximum, whereas a welterweight on WBC can come in at 161.7lbs.

The WBC rule is done via percentages so it actually means that the higher your weight, the more pounds you can gain. Via WBC, on the day of the fight a Welterweight is permitted to gain 14.7lbs, whereas a Cruiserweight can gain 20lbs.
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Old 02-23-2012, 02:43 PM
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I don't get it? Making weight is a big part of why a fighter campaigns at a certain weight class. Same day weigh in is fine, but why the maximum rehydration limit? Is it to protect fighters who may use any unsafe practices in shedding the weight?
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Old 02-23-2012, 02:44 PM
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so basically it's like what the IBF does?

Chavez will have to vacate.
The maximum weight he could be on fight day is going to be 176, and since he blows up to 180 I think he's going to have to move up to SMW pretty soon.
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Old 02-23-2012, 02:45 PM
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I don't get it? Making weight is a big part of why a fighter campaigns at a certain weight class. Same day weigh in is fine, but why the maximum rehydration limit? Is it to protect fighters who may use any unsafe practices in shedding the weight?
10% is a lot of weight gain, only few fighters are going to have problems with this new rule such as Rios, Chavez Jr and Ortiz.
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Old 02-23-2012, 02:53 PM
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i think i like this rule. if we are gonna have so many weight classes, at least have some standards for fighters that make weight only to blow up 20 lbs the next dsy.
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Old 02-23-2012, 03:32 PM
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No need for a fighter to have to make weight twice. It is all water at that point, and the fighters should be allowed to rehydrate as much as they need to/can.

Either have one weigh-in the day of, or have it the night before. Not both.

This isn't going to stop fighters from cutting obscene amounts of weight. It's just going to allow the WBC to issue more fines.

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Old 02-23-2012, 03:47 PM
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The 10 pound rule for the IBF is better. 10% is way too much leeway. 16 extra pounds for middleweight is still ridiculous.
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Old 02-23-2012, 04:19 PM
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If a fighter is rehydrating over 10% of his weigh-in weight... He doesn't belong in that weight class. The issue is that if other fighters are abusing the rules to have a size advantage on their opponents, how can someone tell the fighters not to?

If the commisions and sanctioning organizations employed a similar rule to this, it'd reduce fighters' suffering a long term injury in the ring and the vast majority of fighters would have to move up a class.

Fighters that rehydrate over 10% (and even less) of their weight from one day to the next, means that they lose around 20% of water weight during training camp. The weight cuts in boxing (and wrestling and MMA) are drastic. It isn't uncommon for fighters to lose 30-40 pounds during training camp; losing 30-40 pounds of (mostly) water weight and then having 1 to recover before taking punishment makes boxing even more dangerous than it is.

Good move by the WBC.
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