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Old 02-09-2012, 12:28 PM
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He didn't do anything illegal or wrong by not taking a test. But he opened himself up to instense scrutiny and suspicion by not taking one and hearing how badly he struggled to make weight.
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Old 02-09-2012, 12:36 PM
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Stupid ass post.

I should start a thread titled, "donaire and vazquez didn't take the test, they snuck out without testing damn cheaters"

See how their fans would appreciate their name being messed with.
why is it stupid because you're a fan of Chavez?

everyone knows the blame is going to fall on TSAC and the WBC because they're the ones who need administer this

duh!!!

but what's to say your Godfather knows you're having issues and whatnot and makes everything better?

we all have heard how corrupt the WBC is what's to say that wouldn't do that to a fighter that has direct PERSONAL ties to the leader of the BC?

178 on Sunday 166 on Thursday night 159.5 at the weigh in

hmmmmm
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Old 02-09-2012, 12:39 PM
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why is it stupid because you're a fan of Chavez?

everyone knows the blame is going to fall on TSAC and the WBC because they're the ones who need administer this

duh!!!

but what's to say your Godfather knows you're having issues and whatnot and makes everything better?

we all have heard how corrupt the WBC is what's to say that wouldn't do that to a fighter that has direct PERSONAL ties to the leader of the BC?

178 on Sunday 166 on Thursday night 159.5 at the weigh in


hmmmmm
Don't forget to add in a positive test a couple years ago.
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Old 02-09-2012, 12:40 PM
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Chavez did not flee from giving a urine sample- Dan Rafael
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Old 02-09-2012, 12:50 PM
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why is it stupid because you're a fan of Chavez?

everyone knows the blame is going to fall on TSAC and the WBC because they're the ones who need administer this

duh!!!

but what's to say your Godfather knows you're having issues and whatnot and makes everything better?

we all have heard how corrupt the WBC is what's to say that wouldn't do that to a fighter that has direct PERSONAL ties to the leader of the BC?

178 on Sunday 166 on Thursday night 159.5 at the weigh in

hmmmmm


is that really what the timeline of his weight loss looked like?
basically 20 lbs in a week?

what the hell, man. you hear about people losing that kind of weight when they are violently ill.

if ariza wasnt involved with administering drugs to him to make him lose weight he would surely see some huge red flags. the guy is world class conditioning coach and nutritionist. like he's not putting his guy on the scale constantly
give me a break!

i'm starting to suspect more and more than ariza is a dope guy and that chavez is using PED's to lose weight and walk into the fight healthy



i hate speculating about this, but it's scary business
if ariza's erratic behavior lately might be stemming from his fear for being outed for drug use

and he may also feel that arum is trying to separate ties between his fighters and ariza (which is why he's evidently trying to throw the promoter of his two highest paid fighters under the bus)

which would call into question pacquiao's cleanness as a fighter
we're only speculating now, but if ariza is using drugs with chavez jr, wouldnt that lead you to believe that some of his other fighters are using illegal drugs?
is that really a one time thing?
could manny pacquiao be on something after all?
that's when it really gets scary. that would singly handedly cripple boxing.
and i dont want to even think of the implications it would have for pacquiao
he's been ending guy's careers.
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Old 02-09-2012, 12:55 PM
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is that really what the timeline of his weight loss looked like?
basically 20 lbs in a week?

what the hell, man. you hear about people losing that kind of weight when they are violently ill.

if ariza wasnt involved with administering drugs to him to make him lose weight he would surely see some huge red flags. the guy is world class conditioning coach and nutritionist. like he's not putting his guy on the scale constantly
give me a break!

i'm starting to suspect more and more than ariza is a dope guy and that chavez is using PED's to lose weight and walk into the fight healthy



i hate speculating about this, but it's scary business
if ariza's erratic behavior lately might be stemming from his fear for being outed for drug use

and he may also feel that arum is trying to separate ties between his fighters and ariza (which is why he's evidently trying to throw the promoter of his two highest paid fighters under the bus)

which would call into question pacquiao's cleanness as a fighter
we're only speculating now, but if ariza is using drugs with chavez jr, wouldnt that lead you to believe that some of his other fighters are using illegal drugs?
is that really a one time thing?
could manny pacquiao be on something after all?
that's when it really gets scary. that would singly handedly cripple boxing.
and i dont want to even think of the implications it would have for pacquiao
he's been ending guy's careers.
yep my inside guy at TR said

"bet on Rubio Jr 178 Sunday night"

then

"bro he's still 166 as he went to bed"
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Old 02-09-2012, 12:56 PM
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Don't forget to add in a positive test a couple years ago.
and the DWI two weeks ago and Jr's starting to sound more and more like a Kennedy
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Old 02-09-2012, 01:08 PM
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No pre-fight weigh-ins...

Guess they 'forgot' about that too.
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No pre-fight weigh-ins...

Guess they 'forgot' about that too.




i still cant believe that they didnt drug test the man
and that they STILL havn't drug tested him


and if i were JR and i were a clean athlete i'd shut everybody up and take a damn drug test.
christ. unless you are going on a drug binge right after your fight you dont have **** to worry about if you arent using PED's

i'm sure some of the stuff would have worked its way out of his system, but at least he'd be showing good faith even if the test wouldnt be as significant as a test the night of a fight
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I hear you but the kid can't test himself...lol

At the end of the day someone who is medically qualified has to administer the test. He waited, nobody came so he left. He did nothing wrong, it was the commission.
I'm not blaming jr directly. I'm blaming the WBC and arum for "forgetting" the test to protect him

I mean how can you out something in a contract, and then after not the contractual obligation was not upheld just say "oh but there's no way to ensure that obligation was upheld". How does that make any sense?

Why out something in a contract if you can't promise it will be upheld?

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