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Old 02-05-2012, 12:30 PM
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Default Chavez could have some success vs the SMW's of today

His slugger style will be more effective vs Bigger fighters, than versus smaller ones, he's always the one with the most reach in his fights and fighting on the inside that's always one handicap for him.

And he comes to the ring at 185lbs, that's pretty big for a SMW, if he can keep the fight on the inside vs the Bigger fighters, always staying on their face, he has a chance vs all of them, he can beat them outworking them and don't let them fight on the outside, after all he has more mobility than an Abraham and not waits for just one punch like Arthur.

All of his career he has been fighting in the wrong style, been always the fighter with the more reach and height, but with fighters of the same build, his slugger style will hit home

He will also be much stronger, and focused on his gameplan than on doing weight and struggling for the last pound




Librado Andrade is a good comparision, but Andrade is slower, and has no defense at all and his technical boxing skills are worse than Margarito, he's also 6'2 to the 6'1 of Chavez, and has a 5 inch advantage over Chavez even tough Chavez comes heavier on fight night than Andrade,

Chavez with the lesser reach will be much better on the inside than Andrade (I know Andrade has the better punching power, but we are talking about outworking them, just like LaMotta)


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Old 02-05-2012, 01:18 PM
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His slugger style will be more effective vs Bigger fighters, than versus smaller ones, he's always the one with the most reach in his fights and fighting on the inside that's always one handicap for him.
Hmmm what? He wins fights because of his size, power and pressure and you think he'll be more effective doing that against bigger guys who hit harder and are stronger? WTF?
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Why wouldnt he have a chance against the top guys at 168? Hes a fuking cruiserweight! And is only 26 years old
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Old 02-05-2012, 01:30 PM
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Hmmm what? He wins fights because of his size, power and pressure and you think he'll be more effective doing that against bigger guys who hit harder and are stronger? WTF?
He wins because he makes them fight his fight, and that is on the inside.

I watch lots of boxing in the lower weights, that's how the majority of mexicans fight, on the inside, I have watched countless of times how many smaller fighters beat to a pulp the stronger and bigger fighter, just because they made the fight a slugging contest where the smaller fighter has the advantage.

And because of what, the inside game, body punching, liver hooks and then destroying the head is that easy, Europeans and American fighters don't have that style, and when they can keep out and inside fighter of their face in all the fight, then all their gameplan goes to ****,

They dont like fighting on the inside, and that's what Chavez does best, all their strenght goes to the trash if they all do is holding and trying to beat him up with the jab at a safe distance.

Also Chavez will not be small vs them as he comes at 185, 190 at fight night, and that liver hook will be precious vs them

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Old 02-05-2012, 01:35 PM
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JCC JR could go up and take Bute's fake belts without breaking a sweat. Bute is a complete and total hype job.

Bute is like the Canadian version of Bigfoot. Complete fabrication. Complete fake.

As far as the rest of them, Sergio Martinez, Andre Ward, and Carl Froch are on JCC JR's hitlist.
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Old 02-05-2012, 01:38 PM
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He wouldn't have a chance against the top SMW's.
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Old 02-05-2012, 01:39 PM
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not that he will, but he better not even thin about andre ward. he'd end up looking like a big bag full of mashed up *******.
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He wouldn't have a chance against the top SMW's.
How about coming down to LMW to face guys like Mayweather or Pac?
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How about coming down to LMW to face guys like Mayweather or Pac?
Not going to happen. If he struggles to get to 160 and naturally weighs Cruiserweight unless he cuts off his head or one of his legs he's going nowhere near LMW.
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Old 02-05-2012, 01:52 PM
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Not going to happen. If he struggles to get to 160 and naturally weighs Cruiserweight unless he cuts off his head or one of his legs he's going nowhere near LMW.
Hey if Bale did it, Alex Ariza will make him do it

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