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Old 02-05-2012, 11:58 AM
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He's an average trainer when it comes to instructions during fights but he seems to be a good trainer in the gym. Kinda like Roach.
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Old 02-05-2012, 12:23 PM
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He's an average trainer when it comes to instructions during fights but he seems to be a good trainer in the gym. Kinda like Roach.
i think that's the problem- neither create thinking fighters, although they certainly have a high level of success.
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Old 02-05-2012, 12:25 PM
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Am I the only person who remember that arce was losing against Vazquez before he got stopped. Yet people said arce beat Vazquez better.

**** arce also got dropped once in round 4 but yet arce had the better performance against Vazquez Jr.

Really watch the arce fight again and tell me arce fought better against Vazquez than donaire. How you get dropped and then was in verge on losing or getting a draw but got lucky in the final round for the stoppage. Donaire at least was clearly beating Vazquez at the card.

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Old 02-05-2012, 12:27 PM
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Old 02-05-2012, 12:38 PM
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Thread starter has taken his hate for margaritos' initial beat down of Cotto to a new level with criticizing his trainer. It's OK buddy. Cotto already got his vengeance. Let it go little man.
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Old 02-05-2012, 12:54 PM
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Exposed, v. - when you don't win by a KO.
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Old 02-05-2012, 12:59 PM
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Am I the only person who remember that arce was losing against Vazquez before he got stopped. Yet people said arce beat Vazquez better.

**** arce also got dropped once in round 4 but yet arce had the better performance against Vazquez Jr.

Really watch the arce fight again and tell me arce fought better against Vazquez than donaire. How you get dropped and then was in verge on losing or getting a draw but got lucky in the final round for the stoppage. Donaire at least was clearly beating Vazquez at the card.
Arce didn't have a better performance than Donaire but by no means was he losing to Vazquez at time of the stoppage. Not a chance.
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Old 02-05-2012, 01:04 PM
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Lol Donaire dominated Vazquez n the Cotto stan still calls it expose. Lol
His instructions weren't that bad. You probably got a boner with one of the judges having it for Vazquez.

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Old 02-05-2012, 01:12 PM
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Rios fights the way he does and I don't think any trainer can change him and give him head movement. The problem is donaire doesn't listen to his corner's advice. Garcia told Donaire in the Vazquez fight to keep his hands up but Donaire proceeded to do a monkey imitation. In Donaire's fight with Montiel before round 2, Garcia repeatedly tells Donaire not to throw punches from far away. The first thing that Donaire does in Round 2 is throw a reaching combination. Rios and Donaire don't seem to listen.

I noticed Brian Viloria improved under Robert Garcia when he was trained by him.

Robert Garcia may not be the best trainer but I think he's still a good trainer that communicates well in the corner and does well in the gym. As unskilled as Margarito was, I noticed improvement in his boxing skills under Garcia.
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Old 02-05-2012, 01:14 PM
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Really watch the arce fight again and tell me arce fought better against Vazquez than donaire. How you get dropped and then was in verge on losing or getting a draw but got lucky in the final round for the stoppage. Donaire at least was clearly beating Vazquez at the card.
He didn't get lucky he was applying pressure all night and it paid dividends in the last round.
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