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Old 02-03-2012, 05:04 PM
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It's pretty well documented Mayweather said he'd be willing to fight Martinez at 150. But since you have an agenda and a convenient memory. Here you go:


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Floyd is fighting at 154 but didnt he say he would fight Martinez at 150 or am I making that up ?

Dan Rafael
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He said that.
Ohhhhh look, the same phukkkn thread again.
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Old 02-03-2012, 05:04 PM
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This conversation has really been blown out of proportion. It's like the telephone game.
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Old 02-03-2012, 05:04 PM
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Note: This thread was inspired by a fan in Fat Dan's Chat. Also, all Pacquiao and Mayweather huggers please exit this thread now. I know you won't listen, but it was worth a shot. Here we go:

The fact that Mayweather is willing to fight Cotto at 154 but would make Martinez drop to 150 speaks volumes.

Obviously the issue of weight has nothing to do with caring whether or not his opponent is comfortable, but more about he doesn't feel he needs to adjust his weight to win. And if he can overcome a small sticking point and insult Pac at the same time? All the better. If Mayweather/JMM didn't tell you that Mayweather doesn't care about CW's, then I guess you aren't going to get it.

With that said though, it's not just Mayweather. Pac has used catchweights. Cotto attempted to make Margario fight below 154 for their rematch(so for everyone, Cotto included, b*tching about CWs? What a joke.) And throughout boxing history, many, many fighters have used catchweights.

It's all a matter of one fighter having more clout than his opponent, a genuine need for a catchweight between two fighters from different weight classes, or a CW being treated as a bargaining chip in a negotiation. At the end of the day, they exist, they aren't great. BUT they are a part of boxing and there are many guilty parties.
I don't think Martínez can make 154 comfortably to be honest (and I've been saying that over and over again for MONTHS). He will be even MORE affected coming in at 150. If he was fighting at 154 before, then obviously why would anyone (considering he's been fighting at 160 for the past two years) suddenly come down 4 POUNDS LOWER than his PREVIOUS weight class?

Of course it says something about Floyd, Martínez is a dangerous fighter with strength and speed to boot (he's THE biggest threat out there to the big two assuming the fight gets made at a comfortable weight for Martínez).

Floyd doesn't need to adjust to 154 because it won't be much of a factor because it's Cotto. This is Cotto we're talking about. The guy, who despite his flaws, deserves a shot against Floyd but will ultimately get sniped over and over with power punches. He doesn't have a one-punch knockout factor either. The best Cotto can do is rough him up on the ropes and probably box here and there but, as another poster said, he doesn't have Oscar's variety of tools and size to really threaten Mayweather any more than Oscar did.

Cotto had a better chance at beating Pacquiao in a rematch than beating Floyd because of the styles.
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Old 02-03-2012, 05:05 PM
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Old 02-03-2012, 05:07 PM
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he didn't say he would fight Martinez at 150 he was specifically asked about Martinez saying he will go down to 150 to fight May or Pac
These kids are bigger bull*****ters than Top Rank , look at the topic title , Floyd will only , lol you gotta luv these hating little kids they are so butt hurt by Floyd , simply because he dont make a mockery of the sport like Pac does , look at Pac just now refusing at all costs to fight Cotto without a weight draining CW , thats a real pu$$y move right there .
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Dont you guys get sick of lying ,,,,, the 150 offer was made from Sergio to Pac and we all know Pac changed his mind and wanted 147 ,,, a reporter put it to Floyd about fighting Sergio and Floyd said he offered 150 and sure he can fight him at 150 ,,,,,

Its general conversation you bunch of dickheads , Floyd didnt ask for 150 it was put to him he will probably fight Sergio at 160 for a MW title before he retires ,,,, fuk this site is full of idiots .
Then you're calling Fat Dan a liar. And it don't get no more objective and official than big fat fat dan.
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Then you're calling Fat Dan a liar. And it don't get no more objective and official than big fat fat dan.
did you make up the quote yes or no?
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These kids are bigger bull*****ters than Top Rank , look at the topic title , Floyd will only , lol you gotta luv these hating little kids they are so butt hurt by Floyd , simply because he dont make a mockery of the sport like Pac does , look at Pac just now refusing at all costs to fight Cotto without a weight draining CW , thats a real pu$$y move right there .
Okay, remove the word only from it, and keep everything else if that makes you feel better.
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Why is the thread title a quote from Mayweather when the thread is about a fan asking a question to Dan Rafael?

What's next?

Fan : Is Pacquaio gay?

Dan Rafael : I don't know, maybe?

Thread: Pacquaio : "I'm gay".
This.The thread agenda is so obvious no matter how objective he pretends to be.
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