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Old 01-23-2012, 11:40 AM
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How do people see this going down i fancy putting some big money down on the fights this weekend was going to go for Sonnen over Bisping but Sonnen is 1/5 or something stupid.. Don't get me wrong he should win comfortably but Bisping isn't a total joke and if he can keep it standing he could maybe win a round or 2

I checked out the odds for Rashad/Evans though and they are much better

Rashad to win is 8/13

Rashad is right about Davis he is a boy in comparison.. i wasn't impressed by davis vs lil nog. Rashad has a lot of excellent wins and has looked fairly impressive of late imo... i just think this fight maybe coming to early for Davis..

Usually when its wrestler vs wrestler it often ends up on who has the better standup.. clearly Rashad. I know Davis on paper is the better wrestler but it hasn't translated as well to mma as Rashad who wasn't very good outside mma in comparison

So how do people see this fight going and do they think its a good bet? also do you think the odds for Sonnen look pretty bad?
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Old 01-24-2012, 07:35 AM
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Evans is much more experienced, more proven, the better all around fighter on paper, and on paper the better standup fighter.

But Davis is a better wrestler and a better athlete, and is unproven (therefore a little bit of a question mark still). I could see Davis winning.

Evans is an obvious favorite, but for my 2 cents Davis wouldn't be the worst underdog bet.
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Old 01-24-2012, 10:34 AM
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There is no way in hell bisping can win especially on short notice when he's been preparing for a weak thin grappler and chaels been training for a powerhouse wrestler. Chael will rape bisping and probably finish him.

Rashad should easily beat Davis. How impressive he does it is up to him. Only positive thing I've seen about Davis is he learned some bjj. Evans has never faced a high quality bjj guy besides machida and thiago and both never attempted any. Maybe he could tap him but not likely and he doesnt have the power to hurt rashad. Rashad should just bum rush him from the start.

The maia vs,weidman is very interesting can't believe maia is an underdog. Weidman is getting tapped.
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Old 01-24-2012, 10:34 AM
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Evans is the better striker by far and is way more explosive in the wrestling dept.

Evans will beat Davis on the ground and standing up. Evans hardest work will come in training camp; his fight with Davis will be easy work.
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Old 01-24-2012, 11:53 AM
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As I said, Davis is a better wrestler.

Evans is certainly not "much more explosive in the wrestling department."

Both are very good wrestlers, but Davis is superior. He was also pretty highly touted in wrestling circles as a guy with promise, but decided to go into MMA.

As I said, Evans is a clear favorite. There's a good chance he will be able to counter Davis' wrestling, as this isn't a wrestling match but an MMA match.
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Guys, guys. There's really no need for us to discuss this any further, its already been decided here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fr8vOu3eAgU

Haha. Seriously though, I could definitely see the fight ending that way. Actually the UFC Undisputed 3 predictions have been pretty spot on so far. Correctly predicted Aldo/Mendes and then correctly predicted Lesnar/Overeem.
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As I said, Davis is a better wrestler.

Evans is certainly not "much more explosive in the wrestling department."


Both are very good wrestlers, but Davis is superior. He was also pretty highly touted in wrestling circles as a guy with promise, but decided to go into MMA.

As I said, Evans is a clear favorite. There's a good chance he will be able to counter Davis' wrestling, as this isn't a wrestling match but an MMA match.
Are you talking college wrestling or MMA wrestling?

I hope not college wrestling because MMA is a whole different league.

Davis couldn't even take down lil Nog and you're saying Evans isn't the more explosive wrestler?

Who has Davis fought that's top 10 that would make you say he's the better wrestler than Rashad?
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just bet rashad. I have little reason to think Davis wrestling for mma is good enough to consistently get Rashad on his back. And hes going to need that unless his striking has improved significantly.

I think this will be a standup affair with some td attemps followed by scrambles.
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Old 01-28-2012, 10:55 AM
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Are you talking college wrestling or MMA wrestling?

I hope not college wrestling because MMA is a whole different league.

Davis couldn't even take down lil Nog and you're saying Evans isn't the more explosive wrestler?

Who has Davis fought that's top 10 that would make you say he's the better wrestler than Rashad?
Davis is a much better pure wrestler, but thats negated by Rashad being a better fighter.

I don't think Rashad has the offensive wrestling to consistently take Davis down, as i feel Davis pure wrestling abilities will come in handy defensively. But Rashad will not get taken down either because Davis is much worse than him at setting his takedowns up with punches, which is needed in mma vs "elite" wrestlers.

With that said, Rashad hasn't exactly looked stellar against good wrestlers either (in terms of wrestling). I do feel hes going to significantly outclass Davis in the striking though, unless he gets rocked (as is perfectly possible. his chin is subpar).
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Davis is a much better pure wrestler, but thats negated by Rashad being a better fighter.

I don't think Rashad has the offensive wrestling to consistently take Davis down, as i feel Davis pure wrestling abilities will come in handy defensively. But Rashad will not get taken down either because Davis is much worse than him at setting his takedowns up with punches, which is needed in mma vs "elite" wrestlers.

With that said, Rashad hasn't exactly looked stellar against good wrestlers either (in terms of wrestling). I do feel hes going to significantly outclass Davis in the striking though, unless he gets rocked (as is perfectly possible. his chin is subpar).
I'll ask you the same question.

Who has Davis beaten that's top 10 to make you think he's a better wrestler in MMA than Rashad?

Davis couldn't even take down lil Nog. Rashad took Rampage down multiple times who has some of the best defense in MMA.

Regarding Rashad's chin.

He's been rocked by top 10 guys yes. It's a fight, people get rocked in fights with the exception of Jon Jones as of late.

Rampage, Machida, Fedor and many others have all been KO'd before but that doesn't mean they have suspect chins. It's a fight, stuff happens. It's about what you do after being hurt that counts.

Back to Phil Davis being the better wrestler. Davis has won 5 bouts in the UFC with only one win coming by stoppage due to submission. He hasn't fought anyone to make you think or confirm that he's a better wrestler than Rashad. Until he does, that's just the way it is.

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