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Old 01-15-2012, 08:24 PM
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Fertitta is a dumb cunt. ESPN made those billions through other shows that they paid huge amounts of money to make and host.

That ESPN fighting show does not constitute the whole damn ESPN company and does not make 100% of their revenue (profit might only be less than a million while paying out 50%). Whereas MMA is the whole of the UFC and MMA is where UFC makes 100% of their whole revenue. The main problem is that the UFC is only putting in 5-10% to the fighter, who like their boxing counterparts should be paid more.
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Old 01-15-2012, 11:43 PM
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Seemed like a pretty valid point. Nobody should walk away with a few hundred dollars for putting their body on the line.
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Old 01-16-2012, 12:08 AM
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Seemed like a pretty valid point. Nobody should walk away with a few hundred dollars for putting their body on the line.
no one is making them
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Old 01-16-2012, 01:54 AM
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no one is making them
Actually they are, Zuffa is limiting fighter employment through their monopoly antics.

Zuffa has been buying out and cutting the legs from other promotions e.g. putting on shows at the same time, and limiting fighter choices of promotions.

If Zuffa cant topple a promotion (i.e. M-1 Global) then they discredit the fighter or ban all fighters contracted to that promotion as the case with Golden Glory.

Zuffa is now playing with the big boys, Zuffa bush league antics wont work with a powerful company like ESPN who wont be bullied by these mafia scums.
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Old 01-16-2012, 02:25 AM
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Lorenzo Fertitta has a point. ESPN has a responsibility to fairly compensate the fighters who fight on THEIR show. "ESPN Friday Night Fights" implies that ESPN is co-promoting their own fights. Showtime, HBO, and ESPN probably own the tape of the shows they produce.

Clearly you cannot fault the network for athlete's pay when showing the NFL on FOX, or NBA on ABC. This implies that they are showing "secondary" programming owned by others, "with the express permission of the NBA."

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Old 01-16-2012, 03:03 AM
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Lorenzo Fertitta has a point. ESPN has a responsibility to fairly compensate the fighters who fight on THEIR show. "ESPN Friday Night Fights" implies that ESPN is co-promoting their own fights. Showtime, HBO, and ESPN probably own the tape of the shows they produce.

Clearly you cannot fault the network for athlete's pay when showing the NFL on FOX, or NBA on ABC. This implies that they are showing "secondary" programming owned by others, "with the express permission of the NBA."

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Boxing FNF for ESPN is a bit sport that doesnt get them too much money. ESPN spends BILLIONS of dollars for broadcast rights for various other sports including NFL. BILLIONS.
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He's using the good guy sympathy role to get across his point. It's a very smart tactic that alot of people will fall for.

It's like saying "Sure we pay $2.50 an hour but look at these kids in China making 60 cents! That's outrageous! $2.50 compared to that doesn't sound so bad now does it?"

The Fertittas' created a near perfect business model. With the president being the ultimate American good guy.
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Old 01-16-2012, 04:05 AM
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They do have a monopoly that they rule with an iron fist but in what other combat sport offers undercard fighters noone has ever heard of the opportunity to make as much if not more than the main eventers through their incentive bonuses???

And what other combat sport compensates fighters for medical expensed for any injuries sustained in a fight and in training camp??? This may not seem like a big deal for star boxers who make exponentially more than mma fighters but for unknowns and hopefuls that fight on boxeo azteca and friday night fights...offerings the ufc has could be life changing.

Guys like randall bailey could have made as much as an extra 120,000 dollars on top of their purse. Even if he never won another fight or even if he never fought again it would be a nice nest egg to fall back on to never have to work a normal 9 to 5 after boxing.
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Old 01-16-2012, 06:30 AM
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They do have a monopoly that they rule with an iron fist but in what other combat sport offers undercard fighters noone has ever heard of the opportunity to make as much if not more than the main eventers through their incentive bonuses???

And what other combat sport compensates fighters for medical expensed for any injuries sustained in a fight and in training camp??? This may not seem like a big deal for star boxers who make exponentially more than mma fighters but for unknowns and hopefuls that fight on boxeo azteca and friday night fights...offerings the ufc has could be life changing.

Guys like randall bailey could have made as much as an extra 120,000 dollars on top of their purse. Even if he never won another fight or even if he never fought again it would be a nice nest egg to fall back on to never have to work a normal 9 to 5 after boxing.
Comparing Shane Carwin who held the UFC HW belt and only receiving $40k, name me another boxer who holds a belt and is willing to fight for a measly $40k.

The top 10 in boxing gets paid many times more than the top 10 in MMA. The top 100 in boxing gets many times more than the top 100 in MMA.

Those ESPN FNF are basically not even top anything in the world ATM, unlike those who supposedly fight in the UFC. Also the budget for ESPN to host everything is 3 million for the whole year. FNF is a very low budget and is low level, its designed to give guys a go. My bet is that the pay % for FNF is far higher than the slave labor pay that the UFC awards its fighters.
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Old 01-16-2012, 06:33 AM
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And what other combat sport compensates fighters for medical expensed for any injuries sustained in a fight and in training camp??? This may not seem like a big deal for star boxers who make exponentially more than mma fighters but for unknowns and hopefuls that fight on boxeo azteca and friday night fights...offerings the ufc has could be life changing.
Basically most of them. Its not uncommon around the world and even with different sports. The promoter/manager insures their fighters for all these things and takes a small cut. Its just that the UFC takes a HUGE HUGE HUGE cut, like the stealing, shady scums they are.
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